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Old 11-15-2022, 09:20 AM
 
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I agree they seemed very different from each other (although, both had a history of loser jobs). He seemed very introverted, she was clearly an extrovert. She did not seem particulary bright and he seemed quite intelligent. She had many friends, he seemed to have none. I can see why he "needed" her, but I can't really see her "need" for him. But she did.
His parents facilitated that. They gave them "jobs" in their vitamin/supplement business as sales representatives or "nutritionists", or something, and allowed them to come and go from the jobs as they pleased, to accommodate their interest in road trips.
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:31 AM
 
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I don't think Brian was intelligent at all. He was obsessed with and addicted to extremely dark images and it led him down a very dark path, from which he could not extricate himself. His suspected schizophrenia (hearing voices, and having nightmares with voices, as stated by Gabby to her friend Rose), was concurrent with the obsession with dark images. Why Gabby allowed herself to associate with that is beyond me, except that in youth young people do a lot of experimenting with drugs and edgy sex play. From what I read back then, that seemed to be what was going on. Brian was a charming manipulator and a douche, according to people who knew him and worked with him.

At any rate, I will be watching this lawsuit closely to see what comes of it. The bottom line is, whether you agree with it or not, the Moab police officers did not follow the law. I think the female officer would have handled things differently but she was overridden by Pratt.
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Old 11-15-2022, 09:55 AM
 
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I don't think Brian was intelligent at all. He was obsessed with and addicted to extremely dark images and it led him down a very dark path, from which he could not extricate himself. His suspected schizophrenia (hearing voices, and having nightmares with voices, as stated by Gabby to her friend Rose), was concurrent with the obsession with dark images. Why Gabby allowed herself to associate with that is beyond me, except that in youth young people do a lot of experimenting with drugs and edgy sex play. From what I read back then, that seemed to be what was going on. Brian was a charming manipulator and a douche, according to people who knew him and worked with him.

At any rate, I will be watching this lawsuit closely to see what comes of it. The bottom line is, whether you agree with it or not, the Moab police officers did not follow the law. I think the female officer would have handled things differently but she was overridden by Pratt.
I remember this, now that you mention it. He had a very different psychology than Gabby.
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Old 11-15-2022, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Beacon Falls
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I don't think Brian was intelligent at all. He was obsessed with and addicted to extremely dark images and it led him down a very dark path, from which he could not extricate himself. His suspected schizophrenia (hearing voices, and having nightmares with voices, as stated by Gabby to her friend Rose), was concurrent with the obsession with dark images. Why Gabby allowed herself to associate with that is beyond me, except that in youth young people do a lot of experimenting with drugs and edgy sex play. From what I read back then, that seemed to be what was going on. Brian was a charming manipulator and a douche, according to people who knew him and worked with him.

At any rate, I will be watching this lawsuit closely to see what comes of it. The bottom line is, whether you agree with it or not, the Moab police officers did not follow the law. I think the female officer would have handled things differently but she was overridden by Pratt.
How did the officers not follow the law?
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Old 11-15-2022, 06:23 PM
 
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One can look up Utah law online or listen to the video. My impression is that when one reads something directly at the source it tends to be more informative and convincing than hearing it from a random poster.
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Old 11-16-2022, 03:49 AM
 
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How did the officers not follow the law?
I think he/she means police protocal/tactics.

the officers weren't negligent.
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Old 11-16-2022, 08:39 AM
 
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One can look up Utah law online or listen to the video. My impression is that when one reads something directly at the source it tends to be more informative and convincing than hearing it from a random poster.
Right but you're not even fully reading your own sources and not responding to us when we point them out to you. (post #50)

It just seems this is an impossible to discuss topic as it is so emotionally charged and things just get buried so fast in torrents of posts.

We've already started down this path of how the cop is a domestic abuser and citing comments from an angry ex but we've got no proof of it, no formal complaints...just that he's a marriage cheat.

A lot of trial lawyer tactics going on here.
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Old 11-16-2022, 08:50 AM
 
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A large part of the reason the lawsuit was brought is because of witnesses who have come forward who have direct experience of abuse from the officer.

The lawsuit will override "emotionally charged" issues and stick to the facts and the law. You call it "trial lawyer tactics." I call it legal procedure.
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Old 11-16-2022, 09:09 AM
 
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A large part of the reason the lawsuit was brought is because of witnesses who have come forward who have direct experience of abuse from the officer.

The lawsuit will override "emotionally charged" issues and stick to the facts and the law. You call it "trial lawyer tactics." I call it legal procedure.
They have claims which you're trying to present as real without any proof. (aka hearsay)

Go back and respond to post #50, you didn't even read your own link and were incredulous he had a job.
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