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That isn't the same as saying we've heard "excerpts" of the call.
Yes, it is. I didn't say a translation.
Excerpts.
"Unconscious person". "Passed out".
I'm not here to convince you that LE was telling the truth when they characterized the 911 call.
I'm mainly posting this info for people who honestly didn't realize LE had characterized the call as one to report an "unconscious person" who was "passed out".
This raises the question: Could there have been enough time to save one or more of the victims if the others had called 911 immediately?
I don’t think so. Seems I read or heard someone (Kaylee’s dad maybe?) say that the victims died quite quickly, not a lot of suffering. To me, that means the initial strikes were strong and deadly. Throat or heart strikes.
Yeah, we don't know whether the news story is paraphrasing/quoting the actual 911 call, the dispatch to LE, or the language on Moscow's Nov. 20 press release. It's a stretch to imagine a bunch of freaked out 20-year-olds using the word "unconscious," though; sounds more like a dispatcher teasing out the situation to get an idea of what was going on.
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Yeah, we don't know whether the news story is paraphrasing/quoting the actual 911 call, the dispatch to LE, or the language on Moscow's Nov. 20 press release. It's a stretch to imagine a bunch of freaked out 20-year-olds using the word "unconscious," though; sounds more like a dispatcher teasing out the situation to get an idea of what was going on.
I am also resistant to believing this, but the fact is, this is what they've said.
It may well be that the bedroom door was locked, and by the placement of a purse or shoes and car in the driveway, the roommates knew for a fact one of the roommates must be in her room although knocking and pounding didn't wake her.
I am also resistant to believing this, but the fact is, this is what they've said.
It may well be that the bedroom door was locked, and by the placement of a purse or shoes and car in the driveway, the roommates knew for a fact one of the roommates must be in her room although knocking and pounding didn't wake her.
It could reasonably be that.
We're just going to have to disagree that it's a fact that they actually said the word "unconscious" during the 911 call. To make it really clear, I'm not saying that they definitively did not; I'm saying that we don't know. I know a little something about how journalism works, though; the quoted material in the CBS story likely came from Moscow's press release, which likely came from dispatch.
It could "reasonably" be a lot of things. But if your scenario actually happened and the roommates were banging on the door because of a purse in the driveway (oh please) and didn't see any actual bodies, that makes it even less likely that they would have used the word "unconscious" during the call to 911.
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We're just going to have to disagree that it's a fact that they actually said the word "unconscious" during the 911 call. To make it really clear, I'm not saying that they definitively did not; I'm saying that we don't know. I know a little something about how journalism works, though; the quoted material in the CBS story likely came from Moscow's press release, which likely came from dispatch.
It could "reasonably" be a lot of things. But if your scenario actually happened and the roommates were banging on the door because of a purse in the driveway (oh please) and didn't see any actual bodies, that makes it even less likely that they would have used the word "unconscious" during the call to 911.
I didn't say purse in the driveway. Placement of purse or shoes. Car in the driveway.
If they saw the body (bodies) and didn't characterize it as a brutal murder, THAT's the only thing that's absolutely unreasonable, and in fact, not believable.
There was blood dripping down the outside wall of that house, for heaven's sake, and the cops had never seen such a gruesome scene.
It's not believable that the girls saw one of the stabbing victims, called yet more people over to the house and they all decided the person was unconscious and passed out.
If they had characterized it as it was, there would certainly have been more than one cop show up to do the initial call.
Yeah, we don't know whether the news story is paraphrasing/quoting the actual 911 call, the dispatch to LE, or the language on Moscow's Nov. 20 press release. It's a stretch to imagine a bunch of freaked out 20-year-olds using the word "unconscious," though; sounds more like a dispatcher teasing out the situation to get an idea of what was going on.
I'm pretty sure they are paraphrasing detectives who have listened to the 911 call, not paraphrasing the actual call. All of the information should be taken with a grain of salt.
A lot of information could be misinterpreted by the media and or public and the investigators may feel no need to correct it. We are not getting close to the whole story, and probably never will.
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