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Old 02-24-2024, 02:11 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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It was the parents' choice to visit a beach not staffed with lifeguards. Signs warning "at your own risk" would've been posted. Curious if they were busy scrolling on their phones or even egging them on to videotape it for "likes" or to go viral (I agree two small children couldn't have dug a hole that deep without much help from adults; either it was already there or the parents contributed to the digging). Absolutely one of my pet peeves at the beach, as not only kids, but small creatures get trapped in them. You can also break a leg walking at night. If you MUST dig, fill it in!
There are beachgoers who avoid attended beaches...there may be fees and there are too many dang rules to follow!
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Old 02-24-2024, 02:25 PM
 
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There are beachgoers who avoid attended beaches...there may be fees and there are too many dang rules to follow!
I have never heard of paying a fee to go to the beach. To park, yes, especially if you are a nonlocal and don't know where the free parking is, but not to actually set foot on a beach.
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Old 02-24-2024, 03:19 PM
 
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I have never heard of paying a fee to go to the beach. To park, yes, especially if you are a nonlocal and don't know where the free parking is, but not to actually set foot on a beach.
Seem to recall visiting a few beaches that imposed some sort of day-use fee payable at an entrance kiosk but don't recall just where. I'm sure paying to park conveniently close is common. The entity that maintains the parking lot/facilities probably pays to maintain/patrol the beach too.
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Old 02-24-2024, 03:25 PM
 
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I have never heard of paying a fee to go to the beach. To park, yes, especially if you are a nonlocal and don't know where the free parking is, but not to actually set foot on a beach.
In South Jersey, all the beaches except Atlantic City and Wildwood require beach tags.
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Old 02-24-2024, 03:26 PM
 
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There was an episode about things like this in the USA on Oprah. The life guards and paramedics or whomever now use their surfboards to plunge by hand on the sides of the hole the person got buried in and then they dig. The surfboards prevent what they dig out prevent it from falling/collapsing back into the hole.

In the US I think digging deep holes and burying anyone up to their neck is no longer allowed. Last I remember Security checks around to make sure it is not being done.

It would be a good idea for Indiana will start making it their laws too and post signs. Security guards would have helped and using surfboards too.
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Old 02-24-2024, 03:33 PM
 
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There was an episode about things like this in the USA on Oprah. The life guards and paramedics or whomever now use their surfboards to plunge by hand on the sides of the hole the person got buried in and then they dig. The surfboards prevent what they dig out prevent it from falling/collapsing back into the hole.

In the US I think digging deep holes and burying anyone up to their neck is no longer allowed. Last I remember Security checks around to make sure it is not being done.

It would be a good idea for Indiana will start making it their laws too and post signs. Security guards would have helped and using surfboards too.
The family was vacationing in Florida when this happened. They may not have been aware of what dangers can happen on beaches. I don’t think there are actual beaches in Indiana unless they’re on lakes. And those are probably a different texture.
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Old 02-24-2024, 04:48 PM
 
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The family was vacationing in Florida when this happened. They may not have been aware of what dangers can happen on beaches. I don’t think there are actual beaches in Indiana unless they’re on lakes. And those are probably a different texture.
It's obvious that dry sand collapses. And really wet sand that waves are washing over also collapses immediately, so it's not easy for kids to dig a deep hole in either of these. But if you dig a dozen feet up from the shoreline, the sand is dry on the very top but damp and firm underneath. It's not hard to dig a hole that is 3+ feet deep and it seems safe enough (until it isn't). Not sure there would be lots of this kind of sand condition in Indiana.

It's also tempting to dig TWO big holes with a tunnel that connects them. That is probably the most dangerous thing of all; a kid crawls through that tunnel and the whole thing comes down and buries them.
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Old 02-24-2024, 06:12 PM
 
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100% agreed. I was in the Caribbean 2 months ago, just casually standing in the relatively calm ocean water with my 10 year old daughter, maybe 5-10 feet max from the shoreline. A fairly strong wave unexpectedly knocked us back onto the sand, and as a 200 pound man who landed directly on my shoulder, I dislocated it and was in excruciating pain. And this from what by all accounts looked like a pretty mild and calm ocean (and even the wave that hit us was not huge by any means). Be careful out there.
Are you going to sue anyone ? Maybe the 200 lb guy for not being more steady on his feet ?
just askin'. Do you have a GoFundMe ?
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Old 02-24-2024, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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First thing to go up was a GoFundMe. I hate what happened to this little girl. But, I also hate everyone wanting someone to pay for their tragedies. If they could afford to go to the beach from Indiana, why do we pay into funding their other responsibilities?

Those boys that shot that lady and wounded 22 others at the KC Super Bowl parade, their parents, each, set up GoFundMe's. Said the boys had a long road to recover after being shot....... they were taken down pretty quick but.......
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Old 02-24-2024, 07:39 PM
 
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I have never heard of paying a fee to go to the beach. To park, yes, especially if you are a nonlocal and don't know where the free parking is, but not to actually set foot on a beach.
Tell us you've never been to New Jersey without saying you've never been to New Jersey...
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