*Dallas - Fort Worth: The New Mecca of the South! (Houston: houses, club)

[feufoma]

Originally Posted by TowerGuy

OH YEAH?!!!

Well, MY CITY CAN BEAT UP YOUR CITY!

Seriously, this "mine is bigger than yours" contest has gone on for 12 DAYS!
It is just another lame and tiresome thread of Dallas vs Houston. Who cares?

Exactly, we all know Duck Fallas!

[Mister Nifty]

Originally Posted by feufoma

Exactly, we all know Duck Fallas!

No, I haven't been arguing that Dallas is bigger than Houston. I'm arguing about "perception." The height of the buildings in the Dallas-Fort Worth area will always be hindered by the close-in proximity of its better located airports. Love Field airport is closer to downtown Dallas than Uptown Houston is to downtown Houston.
http://www.maplandia.com/united-stat...field-airport/
In comparison, Hobby airport, the similar airport to Love Field in Houston, is completely outside Loop 610.
Likewise, the buildings in the Addison area will always be hindered by the location of the Addison commuter airport sitting right in the heart of that particular urban community.
Las Colinas has DFW and Love Field in intimate proximity hindering the heights of its buildings.
The height of buildings in downtown Fort Worth are hindered by the near-by military base and Meacham Field.
I also pointed out that real estate development today tends to be more focused on multi-use transit oriented developments or TODs. As Houston doesn't have much of a mass transit yet, then its developments will tend to be of the old kind.
Here are my points again:
1) The Dallas-Fort Worth area is the larger market of the two metropolitan areas which is why it has a corridor of commercial shopping districts and Houston doesn't.
I coined this particular 23 mile long corridor the "Super Corridor." It runs from downtown Dallas to the south to 121 in southern Frisco to the north while its boundaries are Dallas Parkway (Platinum Business Corridor) to the west and Preston Road (Golden Retail Corridor) to the east.
2) The Dallas-Fort Worth area has been making the better decisions of the two metropolitan areas which is why it has a corridor of transit oriented developments and Houston doesn't.
I coined this particular 20 mile long corridor the "Grand Corridor." It also runs from downtown Dallas to the south and to Parker Road in Plano to the north while its boundaries are Central Expressay to the west and the Red Line of the DART light rail system to the east.
3) Finally, the airports in the Dallas-Fort Worth area are better located than they are in Houston which is why Dallas has a corridor of employment centers and Houston doesn't. These five employment centers are, in order, downtown Dallas (130,000), Uptown Dallas (25,000), the Stemmons Corridor (130,000), the greater Las Colinas area (over 100,000), and DFW airport (60,000).
As one travels the route from the northern exit from DFW airport through Las Colinas, through the Stemmons Corridor, through Uptown, and through downtown Dallas, one can definately sense the nearly half a million people working along what I coined the Mega Corridor.
Indeed, once again, Houston does have the taller buildings in its three business districts. But, when all things are put into perspective, the three mega corridors in the Dallas area are the reasons the Dallas-Fort Worth area smokes every other southern metropolitan area.

[feufoma]

[quote=Mister Nifty;17253417]No, I haven't been arguing that Dallas is bigger than Houston. I'm arguing about "perception." [quote]

Great! But, Duck Fallas anyway. Houston feels larger to me. Just my perception...

[coolieandre]

Originally Posted by Mister Nifty

No, I haven't been arguing that Dallas is bigger than Houston. I'm arguing about "perception." The height of the buildings in the Dallas-Fort Worth area will always be hindered by the close-in proximity of its better located airports. Love Field airport is closer to downtown Dallas than Uptown Houston is to downtown Houston.
Dallas Love Field Airport Map | United States Airports
In comparison, Hobby airport, the similar airport to Love Field in Houston, is completely outside Loop 610.
Likewise, the buildings in the Addison area will always be hindered by the location of the Addison commuter airport sitting right in the heart of that particular urban community.
Las Colinas has DFW and Love Field in intimate proximity hindering the heights of its buildings.
The height of buildings in downtown Fort Worth are hindered by the near-by military base and Meacham Field.
I also pointed out that real estate development today tends to be more focused on multi-use transit oriented developments or TODs. As Houston doesn't have much of a mass transit yet, then its developments will tend to be of the old kind.
Here are my points again:
1) The Dallas-Fort Worth area is the larger market of the two metropolitan areas which is why it has a corridor of commercial shopping districts and Houston doesn't.
I coined this particular 23 mile long corridor the "Super Corridor." It runs from downtown Dallas to the south to 121 in southern Frisco to the north while its boundaries are Dallas Parkway (Platinum Business Corridor) to the west and Preston Road (Golden Retail Corridor) to the east.
2) The Dallas-Fort Worth area has been making the better decisions of the two metropolitan areas which is why it has a corridor of transit oriented developments and Houston doesn't.
I coined this particular 20 mile long corridor the "Grand Corridor." It also runs from downtown Dallas to the south and to Parker Road in Plano to the north while its boundaries are Central Expressay to the west and the Red Line of the DART light rail system to the east.
3) Finally, the airports in the Dallas-Fort Worth area are better located than they are in Houston which is why Dallas has a corridor of employment centers and Houston doesn't. These five employment centers are, in order, downtown Dallas (130,000), Uptown Dallas (25,000), the Stemmons Corridor (130,000), the greater Las Colinas area (over 100,000), and DFW airport (60,000).
As one travels the route from the northern exit from DFW airport through Las Colinas, through the Stemmons Corridor, through Uptown, and through downtown Dallas, one can definately sense the nearly half a million people working along what I coined the Mega Corridor.
Indeed, once again, Houston does have the taller buildings in its three business districts. But, when all things are put into perspective, the three mega corridors in the Dallas area are the reasons the Dallas-Fort Worth area smokes every other southern metropolitan area.

Hmmm...I don't know about that. Atlanta has already coined the name Empire of the South...Dallas is nice, but not the empire.....Sorry Dallas

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by coolieandre

Hmmm...I don't know about that. Atlanta has already coined the name Empire of the South...Dallas is nice, but not the empire.....Sorry Dallas

I agree. If there is a capital of the South, it is Atlanta. I dont even consider Dallas part of the south, just that it has some Southern characteristics. Dallas is too many things.

[Mister Nifty]

Originally Posted by justme02

I agree. If there is a capital of the South, it is Atlanta. I dont even consider Dallas part of the south, just that it has some Southern characteristics. Dallas is too many things.

Whatever Chicago is to the northern part of the United States, that is what Dallas-Fort Worth is to the southern part of it.

[Mister Nifty]

Originally Posted by coolieandre

Hmmm...I don't know about that. Atlanta has already coined the name Empire of the South...Dallas is nice, but not the empire.....Sorry Dallas

Once again, when the areas are put into perspective, Dallas smokes Atlanta.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by mm4

Whatever. Added to downtown Dallas it dwarfs Houston's. Tell me what's headquartered in downtown Houston. Besides Enron.


Anyone looking at it who can interpret visual data abstractly can deal with it. Glad you're one of them.


As of July 2009: an estimated difference of upwards of 580K (580,126). (Growth between 2007 and 2008: Dallas-Fort Worth (147,000), Houston (130,000).)


Hey, as long as no one brings up city population per se. Or urban centers.


This deserves its own post response. I may get to it later.

LOL

Funniest statement I've heard so far this year!

1. Downtown Houston alone has more skyscrapers than Downtown Dallas & Downtown Fort Worth combined.

2. Enron is no longer a company & hasn't existed in almost a decade. I thought everybody knew that by now? Its only been all over the news, had countless books written about the collapse of Enron, & even a Hollywood movie made about it.

All because of one mans greed. It was a terrible turn of events, but most Houstonians have put that far behind them by now.

[Metro Matt]

Originally Posted by mm4

That's it? You found a hospital you're calling a "medical center" outside of the Texas Medical [one stop shopping] Center? And failed to mention that that hospital only occupies the bottom 10 floors of that tower with the crown in the top right of the photo in the distance, the rest being office space above it? So basically we're looking at office space there in the distance.

Actually its 15 floors of outpatient care & 20 of office space.

35-story medical tower going up at Memorial City - Houstonist

Where did you get 10 from?

[mm4]

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

Actually its 15 floors of outpatient care & 20 of office space.

My mistake, 15 floors. I thought it was in-patient?