10-31-2015, 04:55 PM
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We are interested in a house which has almost everything that we wanted for instance, closer to work, plano ISD, walkable distance to elementary, middle and high school (which I think would be a big plus in long run to pick and drop), big media room that my husband needs for his music band, 4500+ sq ft and a MIL suite at main level however, it doesn't have a POOL :-(
Most probably, this is going to be our last home before we downsize, and I (only me) feel that, I cannot live without a pool. LOL...I'm feeling like a child, who is going to be deprived of her choicest candy. Since, we've already stretched our budget so much that, i don't think we can get a pool anytime soon. Is there anyone who can relate to me about their pool-mania, and share if they survived without a pool in the backyard. Should i just say NO and keep looking? I'm afraid that, there would be no house with everything that we want....especially, pool and good size grassy backyard don't go together.
10-31-2015, 05:23 PM
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Oh, you can find everything you want... it just comes at a high price that you need to be willing to pay for.
Last year, we sold our old home with 3600+ sq ft for a bit over $300k, and we really thought we'd be able to buy a house that had everything we wanted in the $400-425k range, because our last home already had most of what we were looking for.
Eventually, we upped our budget to $500-550k, because that's just what it took to find what we wanted, and we still didn't get our ideal location. But, the house has other things going for it that made up for it, but like I said, we had to pay for it.
As far as the pool goes, if there is a community pool, that may work for you if you don't have your own. Depends on how much you use it I suppose, we bought a house with a pool and since we have a toddler, it's so much easier to just hop in the pool rather than having to load up all her baby crap, strap her in the car seat, drive to the pool, etc. But, if you have older kids, it wouldn't be such a big deal.
10-31-2015, 05:25 PM
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If you can afford a house with a pool, then get one. Keep in mind it's much cheaper to buy a home with a pool than to add one on to a house that doesn't. You may want to see what you're willing to trade down in exchange for a pool if you're already at your max. If the house is in an HOA with a nice community pool if may be nice enough where it will scratch that itch and you'll be able to enjoy your home without a pool in the backyard. A good HOA will have a fantastic pool, nice and clean, plenty of chairs, and access restrictions in place to make sure the riff-raff stays OUT (ex: staff on hand to make sure that people who don't live there don't use the pool, limits on how many "visitors" a resident can bring with them, etc...).
There's also price/size/neighborhood expectations: if you're buying a big, expensive home in a nice neighborhood on a sizable hunk of land it's somewhat expected that when you exceed a certain price point the place BETTER have a damn pool. You may want to price homes in your range with and without pools and see what the numbers tell you.
On the downside, a pool is a pain in the butt to maintain. It downright sucks. We hire a company to clean ours and take care of the chemical levels because we don't have time for all the bullcrap. We're constantly pulling twigs, flowers and junk from the filters, always babysitting the pump on mornings where it decides to be temperamental, the cleaning robots get clogged on a regular basis - not to mention the entire undercarriage needs to be replaced every year and once every 2-3 years you need to drop another $500 on a new robot. Oy vey. then again I suppose it could be worse, but I'm trying to say owning a pool isn't all rainbows and cherry-scented unicorn farts.
10-31-2015, 08:36 PM
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We are interested in a house which has almost everything that we wanted for instance, closer to work, plano ISD, walkable distance to elementary, middle and high school (which I think would be a big plus in long run to pick and drop), big media room that my husband needs for his music band, 4500+ sq ft and a MIL suite at main level however, it doesn't have a POOL :-(
Most probably, this is going to be our last home before we downsize, and I (only me) feel that, I cannot live without a pool. LOL...I'm feeling like a child, who is going to be deprived of her choicest candy. Since, we've already stretched our budget so much that, i don't think we can get a pool anytime soon. Is there anyone who can relate to me about their pool-mania, and share if they survived without a pool in the backyard. Should i just say NO and keep looking? I'm afraid that, there would be no house with everything that we want....especially, pool and good size grassy backyard don't go together.
We love having a private pool and consider upkeep expense is worth the luxury, it wasn't a deal maker/breaker for us to have a pool. If it meets most requirements of most family members then go with it. Prices in Plano are going up so don't be too picky. However, if you have to have a pool, buy a house with an existing pool, installing one is expensive and stressful.
10-31-2015, 08:42 PM
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You can have everything you said plus a pool and plus a big grassy yard in Plano near schools, etc. We do.
You just have to pony up the $.
10-31-2015, 10:50 PM
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You can have everything you said plus a pool and plus a big grassy yard in Plano near schools, etc. We do.
You just have to pony up the $.
450K is our max and my inner wisdom doesn't allow me to go beyond that.....we are getting pool in plano in this range but as i said pool takes up all the yard space.
10-31-2015, 10:53 PM
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Oh, you can find everything you want... it just comes at a high price that you need to be willing to pay for.
Last year, we sold our old home with 3600+ sq ft for a bit over $300k, and we really thought we'd be able to buy a house that had everything we wanted in the $400-425k range, because our last home already had most of what we were looking for.
Eventually, we upped our budget to $500-550k, because that's just what it took to find what we wanted, and we still didn't get our ideal location. But, the house has other things going for it that made up for it, but like I said, we had to pay for it.
As far as the pool goes, if there is a community pool, that may work for you if you don't have your own. Depends on how much you use it I suppose, we bought a house with a pool and since we have a toddler, it's so much easier to just hop in the pool rather than having to load up all her baby crap, strap her in the car seat, drive to the pool, etc. But, if you have older kids, it wouldn't be such a big deal.
completely agree with you on the convenience part, though some people are bringing up the safety and maintenance thing to consider too.
10-31-2015, 10:56 PM
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We love having a private pool and consider upkeep expense is worth the luxury, it wasn't a deal maker/breaker for us to have a pool. If it meets most requirements of most family members then go with it. Prices in Plano are going up so don't be too picky. However, if you have to have a pool, buy a house with an existing pool, installing one is expensive and stressful.
I've searched through some of the old posts here and they all prove your point. Just that it is so hard to decide...and let go of something which fits all other needs.
10-31-2015, 11:11 PM
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We have a pool and we love having it. We bought the house with the pool, glad we did. We also have a huge backyard on a culdesac. Yes, had to pony up the $ to get the house with everything we wanted. Pools are way more expensive now to put in.
As far as upkeep, we do not have the issues that McKinneyOnr mentioned. In 13 years we have only replaced the polaris once. Ours is also heated, highly recommend so you that you can enjoy the pool more. We replaced the pump last summer. Pool equipment is something that you do not skimp on. It most def pays to get the best you can. Otherewise, you will spend more in the long run in the maintenance and upkeep.
Not a fan of the HOA pools now. Even with all of the steps in place to keep out the riff-raff, nothing says that the residents are not the ones causing problems or just making it where you can not enjoy. I enjoy just going out in the backyard on nice days and sitting and relaxing for a bit, even if only for 10 minutes. The whole packing up the kids and their crap to trek to the neighborhood pool is a pain. With the pool, if it was a nice day and the kids got home from school, sure, go jump in the pool for a few mintues before/after dinner. Plus, all of the friends will come to your house so you will get to know their friends.
11-01-2015, 06:37 AM
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On the downside, a pool is a pain in the butt to maintain. It downright sucks. We hire a company to clean ours and take care of the chemical levels because we don't have time for all the bullcrap. We're constantly pulling twigs, flowers and junk from the filters, always babysitting the pump on mornings where it decides to be temperamental, the cleaning robots get clogged on a regular basis - not to mention the entire undercarriage needs to be replaced every year and once every 2-3 years you need to drop another $500 on a new robot. Oy vey. then again I suppose it could be worse, but I'm trying to say owning a pool isn't all rainbows and cherry-scented unicorn farts.
Your experience is a lot different than mine. Maintaining a pool has been pretty easy. We pay someone to do the chemicals, and I clean it myself. Next year, we will probably do the chemicals ourselves too. Sounds like you need the pump replaced for starters, and maybe get a different cleaner. We have a robotic one too... Takes it about 2 hours to clean the pool, then you take it out and clean the filters, which is easy. You're not supposed to leave robotic cleaners in the pool like you can with a suction/pressure cleaner.
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As far as upkeep, we do not have the issues that McKinneyOnr mentioned.
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Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)