03-05-2016, 09:17 PM
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* little info about ourselves
my wife and i are in our late 20s working as young professionals in the dfw area. The rent on our 1 bed apt is almost $900/month and it is continuing to go up each time i renew my lease. Also, both of us have relatively stable jobs, and we don't see ourselves leaving dfw any time soon. Last yr around sept, oct, we decided to start shopping around for our first house.
We don't have kids, so we didn't feel like we need a whole lot of space. A ranch style sfh, 3, 4 bed around 2,000 sq ft will work just fine. the max budget on the house is 300k and this includes renovation. Long story short say, we ended up settling on a new construction, when we saw the model house, it was kind of love at first sight. It met most of our criterion, one story, 4bed2bath, well under budget, in a good school district. The only downside was the house was a 25mi drive from my job.
*what we learned about buying a new construction
pros
1. you are buying a brand new house! no one has ever lived in the house before.
2. you are involved in the building process. Before the builder actually builds the house, if you are buying a ready to build house, you can decide whether you want a fireplace or not, whether you want to have a 2nd living space or convert the area into dinning/studying. meet with the designer and pick out the color of the doors, kitchen cabinets and the exteriors.
cons
1. the model home fools you. To sell their houses, the builder will make the model home look as nice as possible, which means the model house that you see will include lots of upgrades, the wall will be painted nicely, the floor will be upgraded with hardwood, nice granite countertop with the undermount sink in the kitchen, stainless appliances...
We signed the contract and put down the deposit last oct. Now, the house is about to close soon, when we went to see our house in the last few weeks, the craftsmanship is a little sloppy to say the least. I guess for the buyers, buying a house is a big purchase for us. The down payment that we put on the house is literally all the money that we have saved since we started working, but to the builders who build the house, our house to them is just another project that they have to do in order to fulfill the contract and earn their paycheck.
*tip, when you walk into a model home, at least figure out how much all the upgrades will cost, so when you decide to make your house look like the model house, you don't get a sticker shock on the price.
2. upgrades on the new construction
Depends on how you look at it, this can be a pro/con. Pro, it gives you the chance to customize your house, if you are willing to spend some $$$$$ on the upgrades, you can make it into your dream house and move right into it after closing.
Con, if you don't want any upgrades, the base model that the builder offers simply look cheap! from the light fixture to the floor to the kitchen countertop. If you want upgrades, the price that the builder charges on the upgrades is simply outrageous and the selections are somewhat limited. The engineering floor that i liked, the builder wants $14/sq ft. If you want to hire your own contractor to install the hardwood floor, you have to wait after closing; which means if you want hardwood floor in the kitchen, and the builder decides to install tiles for the purpose of passing inspection. you have to pay your contractor additional money to take off those tiles before the hardwood can be installed, simply a pain!
*These are all the things that i can think of for now. If you have any questions about anything that i wrote above, feel free to ask.
To make my thread concise, there are some stuff i didn't bother to cover, for example, whether or not to use builder's preferred lender when it comes to finance your mortgage, what kind of upgrades are worth getting. I am not an expert on these things by any means, but i did learn a thing or two about financing and upgrades.
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03-06-2016, 05:35 AM
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You made the right decision in buying a home. You'll eventually outgrow this one a buy, or build another home. You'll eventually figure out what you want in a second home. Good luck and enjoy the ride.
03-06-2016, 07:31 AM
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That will be a soul sucking commute for you. Keeping renting was the better choice.
03-06-2016, 07:50 AM
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You made the right decision in buying a home. You'll eventually outgrow this one a buy, or build another home. You'll eventually figure out what you want in a second home. Good luck and enjoy the ride.
jcl_cls02 , i guess in the short term, money will be a little tight, all the renovation that we are planning to do after closing, spending the money to furnish the house... extra expense on the property tax. But i think in the long run, it will pay off. I am only in my late 20s, so i like to think long term.
Due to inflation and people's demand for houses in good school district, house price over time will always go up, so relatively speaking, buying a house is a safe investment.
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That will be a soul sucking commute for you. Keeping renting was the better choice.
yea, im not looking forward to the commute either, but with our budget and our requirements, we knew we had to sacrifice on something. It is our first house, it would be naive to think we will find a house thats under budget and meets all of our requirements.
03-06-2016, 08:29 AM
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Your mileage may vary but if I were in your shoes, I would buy a small single story near my work and spend more on advancing my professional marketability seeing the world, adventures, and experiences.
It's too early to dedicate your life to commuting, building, maintaining, upgrading, decorating and furnishing a house. You are young only once. If you have extra money then save it so later in you can move into a bigger better home with huge down payment.
03-06-2016, 08:38 AM
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jcl_cls02 , i guess in the short term, money will be a little tight, all the renovation that we are planning to do after closing, spending the money to furnish the house... extra expense on the property tax. But i think in the long run, it will pay off. I am only in my late 20s, so i like to think long term.
Due to inflation and people's demand for houses in good school district, house price over time will always go up, so relatively speaking, buying a house is a safe investment.
yea, im not looking forward to the commute either, but with our budget and our requirements, we knew we had to sacrifice on something. It is our first house, it would be naive to think we will find a house thats under budget and meets all of our requirements.
25mile commute.... it depends which highway you're taking.
03-06-2016, 08:51 AM
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Your mileage may vary but if I were in your shoes, I would buy a small single story near my work and spend more on advancing my professional marketability seeing the world, adventures, and experiences.
It's too early to dedicate your life to commuting, building, maintaining, upgrading, decorating and furnishing a house. You are young only once. If you have extra money then save it so later in you can move into a bigger better home with huge down payment.
a new construction around the area that i work is at least 400k, and 1 story 4bed almost doesn't exist. i guess i could have bought an older home and fix it, but i cannot stand fireplace and a lot of the older homes have a fireplace. Summer in dallas is quiet long and the temp during the winter only gets about the mid 30s. I used to live the midwest, where the snow can be 5in high. When i see people hang their tv on top of their fireplace, it is a big turn off.
25mi is manageable, a lot of people commute from the burbs to downtown. I know people who live in plano/mckinney and work in irving.
03-06-2016, 08:59 AM
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when i was a single guy, i traveled, went to alaska and rent a rv with some friends, visited europe twice, but now, married. My wife doesn't want me to spend 5k on traveling anymore, especially this yr, with all the additional expenses on the house.
03-06-2016, 09:42 AM
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a new construction around the area that i work is at least 400k, and 1 story 4bed almost doesn't exist. i guess i could have bought an older home and fix it, but i cannot stand fireplace and a lot of the older homes have a fireplace.
You maynot stand a fireplace. But there's a reason every house has one. And if you didn't build one in your new house, that'd likely hurt the resale prospects of your house in the future.
03-06-2016, 09:59 AM
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My husband and I moved to the Dallas area for his work. For the first year, we lived in an apartment. Even though we lived only 10 minutes from his office, and the area was beautiful, and the apartment was brand new, it was a terrible experience.
We ended up buying a newer house with a commute close to what yours is. But it was totally worth it.
We have bought four homes during our marriage. You learn something new with each one.
Our third house was also a new build, only with basically NO upgrades. You learn to ask what's included, and scrutinize. You learn how expensive landscaping and fencing are. You learn to be patient while making the home your own. The bonus there is that you don't have to choose from the builder's limited choices. If you want stainless counters, bamboo floors and pebble tile in the shower, you can do that.
Anyway, enjoy your new home. Have fun with it, and learn from it. It will probably be just one of a few houses you'll own.
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People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)