08-27-2008, 02:40 AM
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My husband will be starting a job mid-September in North Dallas. I will be remaining here with our children, getting ready to put our home on the market, pack, etc. We plan to join him in October/November. We need to find a month to month rental for him, or a rent/room situation. Any suggestions?
We also plan to rent a home for a year before we buy, especially since we need to sell our VA home. We flew down to Dallas last week (friendly people!!) looked at the area (Plano) and actually interviewed a couple of schools. While I have read that Plano is so great on these blogs, when we got there, it was a bit of a culture shock. Teeny weeny backyards/ big fences/ alleys... vs. our huge yards, trees, space. We want to rent a house wherever we plan to purchase... we don't want to change schools again once we get settled. I think that the commute from Allen or Frisco, may be too much. It seems that those areas are still building and will likely be more and more traffic over the years. What is the typical commute from Central Plano, or West Plano? He will be working in N. Dallas right off of the tollway. Also, Where are there neighborhoods with open yards/without alleys in Plano? (Our motto last week was "Everything is Big in Texas, except the backyards.)
Also, when we checked out Skaggs Elementary, it confirmed what I had read here in this forum, that parents aren't welcome to volunteer in the classrooms and they also can't come into school to have lunch with their children, ("it's a distraction" was the principal's explanation, but she said it so friendly!). The community that we are coming from in McLean VA has successful schools because of parental involvement and support. Are most Plano schools typical in this manner, or are there other elementary schools that seem more like a 'community'?
My head is spinning with all that I have to do here in Va, our kids start school here next week, just pulled them from their soccer teams, piano and swimming since we are leaving mid-season and got refunds for their activities (glad to know that soccer is cheaper in Texas! and swimming you had to pay for an entire year in advance) We will obviously want to start soccer, swimming in the Spring. How is the Plano Youth Soccer program? Is there another club we should consider? What USA swimming club would you recommend?
Whew! We have so much work to do... your advice will be so appreciated.
08-27-2008, 06:56 AM
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The restrictions on the parents at the schools came about because some schools are overrun with mothers. The media keeps telling mothers they should "live" at their children's schools and it can be very disrupted to schools to have so many mothers at the schools. I believe it's a school by school decision though and not district policies (I could be wrong). I think the schools would prefer the parental support to be more behind the scenes - making sure the kid is fed and rested, raising money for the school, etc.
One of my friends had a kid at an elementary school that had 1000 kids. At any one time there would be 200-300 mothers at the school. The school put a stop to it. No parents in the hallways or classrooms. At another school where I know a teacher, they had a mom coming to the school every single day to eat lunch with her kid and to spoon feed her. The school thought the child needed to learn how to use a spoon so they told the mother to stop coming. There's also this thought that parents are spying on the teachers.
Having said all that, there are schools that still welcome parents in the schools during the school day (after a background check). So keep looking.
08-27-2008, 08:01 AM
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Thanks for the background. Every school system is really different. Our parent volunteers were scheduled with the teacher for specific duties for things like, writer's workshops, helping make paper mache pinatas or celebrity readers, art appreciation... things like that. I can understand closing an open door policy if it is abused... there are a lot of helicopter parents hovering... but the way our system was set up was very organized and honestly, most of the hovering type didn't care to come in to help the entire class, only interested in their child's interest... and Wow!!! spoon feeding?? That's a new one! Thanks so much for taking the time to share your point of view.
08-27-2008, 09:45 AM
Location: TX
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Our motto last week was "Everything is Big in Texas, except the backyards.
LOL!! This was ours as well...
older neighborhoods will have bigger yards, the bigger newer communities that are buit by builders will have smaller yards. Squeeze as many houses as you can on one small space...more $$$ for the builder.
We are on the FT worth side so sorry i can't help with neighborhoods with bigger lot sizes.
as far as elem volunteering... join the PTA they will use you! I think what they are REALLY discouraging is the "helo" parents, not the actual helpers! (office helper, library help etc..)
If you fill out the background check form and let your childs teacher know that you are avail if they need any help etc... I am sure you'll become very active in the school.
But yes it does vary from school to school.
Good luck.
08-27-2008, 10:36 AM
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The vast majority of the cookie cutter communities are going to have small yards. Developers decided this years ago and if you plan to live in most of the popular newer subdivisions you will face this. You could choose to live in a older neighborhood which will have character and decent size lots are move to the outer ring burbs. Joining your childs PTA would be the best way to get involved in the school. Most schools would have more volunteers than they can handle if they did not limit the parents involvement. If you choose that area there will be plenty of organizations you can sign the kids up for.
08-27-2008, 03:20 PM
Location: Fairfax, VA
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I really can't say as much as some of the other really nice folks on this forum since I am not from Texas or have not lived there. However, I do live in Fairfax and work in Mclean so I am totally familiar with where you currently are. From what I have been reading due to my own interest in relocating to the area, I suppose the Mclean-like suburbs around the Dallas area, in terms of living, seem to be Highland Park, University Park, Addison, Southlake, Grapevine etc. This is pretty subjective apart from the data about schools which is based on facts and again I can't really help there. I suppose the University Park area might be a bit more urban like parts of Arlington (ballston, clarendon etc.) and it seems like the latter two might be posh suburbs.
There are plenty of good resources on the internet that can provide you info about schools and their ratings - while reviewing some of those rankings I noticed there were a good chunk of schools in the Dallas area.
I hope this helps, and Dallas residents please feel to correct me where I may be wrong - good for me too!
08-27-2008, 03:41 PM
Location: TX
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yes,
Highland Park and University Park would be the Dallas area equivalant of McLean. (both are small citiies and not suburbs of Dallas)EXCELLENT schools and a high price tag to go with it. Original homes designed by architects and not builders. HP ISD is very very good.
Lakewood and Preston Hallow would also be comprable, they are Neighborhoods in Dallas, so have Dallas ISD.
08-27-2008, 03:59 PM
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Thanks everyone... I think we'll just get corporate housing for my Husband until we figure this out. Does anyone have kids at Haun Elementary? Would love to hear about the school from you. Also, does anyone commute from that area and could give a realistic travel estimate if going by the tollway? Thanks in Advance!!!
08-27-2008, 06:12 PM
Location: DFW, TX
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If you want to live near Plano, look to Lucas, Parker, and Fairview if you want some property. You'll find 1-2 acre lots. But honestly... I had 2 acres back in Virginia, and half of it was wooded and it was waaaay too much to mow.
08-27-2008, 09:03 PM
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People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)