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Old 06-23-2014, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Five Oaks
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So, the basic plans for 'Midtown' (at the soon to be former Fairgrounds) have been released today.
Everyone that I've talked to has either been very firmly opposed or strongly approving the development.
What do you guys think about it--now that we have some more concrete details?

Dayton "Midtown District" Plan Released | WYSO
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Old 06-23-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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I was going to say that I wasn't aware that Dayton had a Midtown! I'm not sure a grocer will even take a chance. The cost for effective security in a store that size will be substantial and the amount of product they will lose due to theft will be staggering.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:00 AM
 
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I was going to say that I wasn't aware that Dayton had a Midtown! I'm not sure a grocer will even take a chance. The cost for effective security in a store that size will be substantial and the amount of product they will lose due to theft will be staggering.
The area is pretty safe--there's been issues at the Denny's from time to time--but since it's a student-heavy area, there will be lots of eyes on the street between regular police and campus security.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:14 AM
 
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The area is pretty safe--there's been issues at the Denny's from time to time--but since it's a student-heavy area, there will be lots of eyes on the street between regular police and campus security.
I know the area is pretty safe, but city and university police presence will not have any impact on theft from inside of the store, which will be significant. Someplace like Kroger may decide that the profit is worth what they lose in shrink (the Wayne Ave store and the Limestone store in Spingfield have significant theft problems and they are still in business, however the are also "first of the month" stores and generate a significant amount of income through gov't programs), so it comes down to what a company considers to be an acceptable loss. Time will tell if someone wants to take the chance and how much shrink they are willing to accept. I would like to see a nice grocery store near by, I am just not optomistic about it.

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Old 06-23-2014, 10:16 AM
 
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Why do you think that?
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:22 AM
 
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So, the basic plans for 'Midtown' (at the soon to be former Fairgrounds) have been released today.
Everyone that I've talked to has either been very firmly opposed or strongly approving the development.
What do you guys think about it--now that we have some more concrete details?

Dayton "Midtown District" Plan Released | WYSO
This is from June 11th. Also, it has been talked about here (//www.city-data.com/forum/dayto...-update-8.html), but I am not sure if that article was posted.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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Why do you think that?
Why does who think what?
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:12 AM
 
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Why do you think there will be high theft there. I mean, I posted it right under your post. Didn't think I had to quote it.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:23 AM
 
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Good article on why it should work:

Whole Foods takes over America - Fortune
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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This is from June 11th. Also, it has been talked about here (//www.city-data.com/forum/dayto...-update-8.html), but I am not sure if that article was posted.

Aw, drat. I just saw it posted by a FROC person this morning, so I assumed it was new.
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