Moving from Phoenix AZ to Dayton OH

[weatherphotographer]

Originally Posted by woxyroxme

Radial tires killed those off but I had a set of those klunky bias-ply snow tires on my 1978 Plymouth Fury, the road noise was unreal.

Ya oughta youtube that mess haha

[goofy328]

Originally Posted by wrightflyer

If you lump the growing development (or mess depending on your POV) between Cincinnati and Dayton, you get plenty of that sprawl nature. It slowed during the recession, but has only picked back up since the recovery gained some legs. Really thinking about it, you could drive I-75 from Walton, KY all the way to Troy, OH and see non-stop development now. That alone is a nearly 100 mile drive.

Still nothing compared to Chicago or NOVA/DC/MD or Atlanta.

I forgot about the Cincinnati/Dayton area. Yeah, that's like the DC metro and the Atlanta metro in the sixties.

[goofy328]

Originally Posted by hensleya1

Certain counties - Cuyahoga and Summit off the top of my head - still have echeck. Nothing anywhere near southwestern Ohio, though.

If its anything like Virginia its because of population density. Only Northern Virginia has an emissions check. The entire state has a safety inspection; tires, brakes, lights, windshield wipers, etc. But then we have a separate registration, $45 a year. Safety inspection is $17; if you fail $1 if you pass. Fail and you have like 15 days to get it fixed. Then of course no insurance, that is $500. Plus another $145 reinstatement. I really need to move back to Ohio, lol.

[ohio_peasant]

Originally Posted by wrightflyer

If you lump the growing development (or mess depending on your POV) between Cincinnati and Dayton, you get plenty of that sprawl nature. It slowed during the recession, but has only picked back up since the recovery gained some legs. Really thinking about it, you could drive I-75 from Walton, KY all the way to Troy, OH and see non-stop development now. That alone is a nearly 100 mile drive.

The sprawl, if we term it thus, is limited to a narrow corridor around I-75. But what does seem to happen throughout so much of America east of the Mississippi, is older houses on 5-acre or 10-acre or 20-acre patches of land, or maybe 100-acre farms, stretching out uniformly. It is difficult to find truly large uninhabited stretches of land. Contrast this for example with Europe, where overall population density is higher, but people tend to cluster in villages, with empty expanses between the villages.

What is happening along the I-75 corridor, echoing perhaps what happened in the DC suburbs 40 years ago, is a filling-in of former small farms and rural estates, with new construction. It isn't empty forest that's getting cleared, but already occupied land that's re-purposed.