08-17-2011, 02:52 PM
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Received a "speeding ticket" at 2:00 p.m. on a Friday afternoon on 20th & Water street downtown. Police were pulling over every other vehicle in the curb lane and, guess what! I was one of those. I was in congested traffic, had two passengers in my car and was not given any proof of speeding other than the officer's word. No one in my car could believe I was targeted. I have never had a speeding ticket in my life and was going no place in particular, so had no reason to speed. What are my chances of this being dismissed?
08-17-2011, 05:49 PM
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Dr Gerri Carrico
Received a "speeding ticket" at 2:00 p.m. on a Friday afternoon on 20th & Water street downtown. Police were pulling over every other vehicle in the curb lane and, guess what! I was one of those. I was in congested traffic, had two passengers in my car and was not given any proof of speeding other than the officer's word. No one in my car could believe I was targeted. I have never had a speeding ticket in my life and was going no place in particular, so had no reason to speed. What are my chances of this being dismissed?
What was your speed, and what is the speed limit in that area?
08-17-2011, 07:10 PM
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Sure you weren't speeding.....
08-17-2011, 07:14 PM
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Also, there is no 20th and Water St intersection in Denver.
08-18-2011, 08:20 AM
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Sounds like you got caught in a good, old-fashioned speed trap. Happens to everyone if you drive long enough. I really wouldn't stress about it much honestly...welcome to being human and a driver.
For future info, you do have the right to ask the officer certain questions (
always in a polite and respectful manner) like "why am i being pulled over, officer?" or "how fast was I going", or even about the method he used to detemine this. if he says he has you on radar, you have a right to see the radar...again, i'm not at all suggesting you be rude or confrontational with the officer, but as a citizen innocent until proven guilty you do have the right for some basic information about what you are being charged with.
If you've never had a ticket before and can boast a squeaky clean driving record, i can tell you that in most states (not sure about CO), you are able to keep the points off your record (and thus prevent your insurance rates from likely going up) by just showing up at the court date and asking for a suspended sentence (meaning it doesn't show on your permanant record) or even that the charges be dismissed. as part of the "compromise", you may have to attend a saturday morning driver's ed class and / or pay a somewhat steeper fine. it will be worth it though to keep your record clean. most states also have traffic attorneys that you can hire to assist you in such matters, but honestly i don't know that you need to go to that expense for such a relatively minor infraction.
that's about it...again, i wouldn't lose sleep over it.
btw - i'm
not a lawyer...just a leadfoot
08-18-2011, 10:11 AM
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Also, there is no 20th and Water St intersection in Denver.
Probably meant Wewatta.
08-18-2011, 11:54 AM
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Sounds like you got caught in a good, old-fashioned speed trap. Happens to everyone if you drive long enough. I really wouldn't stress about it much honestly...welcome to being human and a driver.always in a polite and respectful manner) like "why am i being pulled over, officer?" or "how fast was I going", or even about the method he used to detemine this. if he says he has you on radar, you have a right to see the radar.
I agree with most of this, except your right to see the radar. Thats just going to **** off the cop, and it's really not practical. If it's a hand held radar gun, the cop will generally turn it off before going after the speeder. If it's mounted inside the patrol car, the cop would have to allow you to sit down inside his car to see it. Thats just not going to happen. Regardless even if you do see it, that doesn't prove that it was your car was radared. It's just your word against the cops, and the judge will always take the cops word over yours.
Also if you ask a lot of questions, the cop will probably think that you are planing to dispute the ticket in court. In which case he may write a few notes in the ticket for his version when it gets to court.
08-18-2011, 12:19 PM
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I agree with most of this, except your right to see the radar. Thats just going to **** off the cop, and it's really not practical. If it's a hand held radar gun, the cop will generally turn it off before going after the speeder. If it's mounted inside the patrol car, the cop would have to allow you to sit down inside his car to see it. Thats just not going to happen. Regardless even if you do see it, that doesn't prove that it was your car was radared. It's just your word against the cops, and the judge will always take the cops word over yours.
Yeah, I wasn't necessarily saying that you
should ask to see it every time you're pulled over for speeding, only that it is
within your rights to see it as part of a potential "probable cause" defense. As in, did the cop have probable cause to pull you over in the first place? ...it's not like we live in a police state (although there are some who would dispute this
) where the police can pull you over for any dang reason they feel like.
As for asking to see the radar, it's a judgement call imo. If you know that you were obviously speeding, then OK, he "got you"...what's the point? But if the speed you are accused of driving at sounds
way off...you should be able to see the "evidence" of that without any negative repercussions. Having said all this, I can only remember requesting this once, and in that instance, the officer was happy to oblige. There it was in red LED for all to see:
78 in a 55.
08-18-2011, 12:48 PM
Location: Edgewater, CO
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FYI, the cop does not have to show you his radar. It is quite a common misconception.
08-19-2011, 06:12 AM
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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FYI, the cop does not have to show you his radar. It is quite a common misconception.
I agree, but just to finish the debate here is a quote from a Colorado attorney.
"I know of no Colorado requirement for the officer to show you the readout from the radar."
Do I have a right to view the radar reading to verify the value the officer "clocked" me at? - Avvo.com
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Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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