06-29-2012, 03:59 PM
Location: Denver, CO
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Do it now , right now. Getting a job offer from out of state is extremely difficult. Absolutely no way to predict what the economy will be like a year from now-- it could be better, it could be worse. If the KC real estate market is anything like the DEN market with falling inventory, now is a good time to sell a house. Great timing too regarding your oldest child... plenty of time to settle in before school starts in August. You might not even have an opportunity a year from now to relocate.
06-29-2012, 04:06 PM
Location: N. Colorado
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I would ask myself these questions:
What is the real estate market like there? What is the average time houses are sellling?
Can you afford a rental and the mortgage back home and for how long until it effects your lifestyle?
Would a mortgage company even sell you a house here if the one back home is not sold?
Does your wife also have employment here? If not how long can you last on just your salary?
Have you and you wife been out here and seen what it is like compared to back there?
If you have not you may not like it here, it is not for everyone. Wanting change is one thing but rushing to move maybe sight unseen and with other obligations I would be hesitant also.
None of us can answer for you but those questions are ones I would be asking myself given such a short time to move. It does not even give you a chance to visit and see what areas might be of interest to you.
06-29-2012, 09:29 PM
Location: In the hot spot!
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Hello. I had posted a few days ago regarding a possible relocation from Kansas City to Denver. I have been offered a job in the Tech Center which was totally unexpected. We started about a month ago considering the idea of relocation there but had no idea an opportunity would happen this fast. Background on my situation, I have a wife and 2 small children (7 and 4) to consider as well. I am a structural engineer so obviously the job market for that occupation must be considered as well. Right now I don't think it's all that great, so limited opportunities I'd say but who knows what the future holds.
I guess I just have a general question for other people that have transplanted out there or anyone else with an opinion on the matter. We are a bit reluctant to move now due to the suddeness of the situation but should we go anyway due to the fact an offer has been extended? The offer is solid, not spectacular, but good enough. The question I guess is would it be better to wait a year to save some cash, get our house ready to sell and all that and try and secure another offer next spring? Or is it crazy to turn down a good offer now just to wait 10 months to try and find another one?
I'm going crazy with this decision and not sure this forum is the best place to seek advice, but I thought I'd give it a shot in case. Thanks!
I know you were offered a job in the Tech Center, but is the company relocating you or is this move on your family? What about schools for the 7-year-old? The advantage you have is that your family is still young. The disadvantage, at least right now, appears to be the lack of time to plan the move and sell your house. You and your wife will know what's best for your family. We moved West 14 years ago (to Arizona) in a similar situation after being offered a job. We didn't make much off the house, but eventually sold it. I took the opportunity as our kids were around the same ages as yours. We were fortunate that it worked out for us. Good luck!
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06-30-2012, 10:36 AM
Location: Just south of Denver since 1989
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From your posts you are a planner and not an adventurer. You will have to weigh the pluses and minuses with your wife. Make a decision together and don't look back.
23 years ago, I got a knock on the door from a moving company planner. He said to me I am here to estimate your move. I said what apartment are you looking for? He said 3. I said 3? Not 13, or 23 or 33 or 43, or 53? He said no, 3. I was the property manager, so I had people knocking on my door all the time to find the correct apartment dwellers.
I told him to hang on. I called my new husband, and he confirmed that the offer to relocate meant we were moving this week, and that he planned on telling me at dinner. That was Tuesday. We left Sunnyvale on Saturday and arrived in Denver on Sunday. We stayed in a hotel with our two cats. He started Monday. I found a 2 bedroom condo for $26,000, we took cash advances out on our credit cards, closed and moved in. Then, I got my real estate license. It took 4 months to pay off our credit cards and then we bought our first house for $132,000.
It was very sudden, and I am still here.
06-30-2012, 10:36 PM
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Pointless to plan stuff based on a year into the future. Make your decision on what you have in front of you right now.
I agree. If you have a job offer, that is way more than half the battle. You don't know what will happen in a year. Your kids will be a year older. The younger they are when you move them, the better, IMO.
07-01-2012, 10:25 AM
Location: South Metro Denver, Colorado
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DrewJ20 - It is always posible to sell your home quickly. The last 4 homes I have been involved with sold in 7 days or less. One of them sold in 1 day. Of course that is in Denver area which our market is very strong right now.
If you price it right and work with the right agent your home could sell fast. Get with a Realtor and ask him how the market is in your area. I can refer somebody if you need it.
Like everybody said you have a job offer, take it!
07-01-2012, 10:50 AM
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I'm with others who believe that Denver is a special situation. Of all the cities in the country, Denver and perhaps a handful of others have a cachet - perceived or true, it really doesn't matter - such that people who tend to come to Denver...stay in Denver.
In similar situations with my friends and with myself, I've always asked them two questions: 1) Is it a good job? It doesn't have to be spectacular, but would you be happy? 2) Is Denver really where you want to be?
If the answer to both questions is yes, then don't hesitate. Get here. If the job sours in months or years, at least you'll be in the city you want to be in.
OTOH, if you don't take this offer, the next offer IN DENVER could be years away.
This will all make sense if Denver and Colorado call to you like they do for so many of us. If Denver's just another city on your Top 50 list of livable cities, then this is all moot - take the job or don't take it, no big whoop.
07-02-2012, 06:52 AM
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Thanks so much to all for the replies. I really do appreciate it.
Vegas...I hear what you are saying. I too believe an out of state offer is tough to come by, hence my hesitance in passing this one up.
gmm_24.....great questions. I definitely need to look into the housing market here as I have no idea what it's like at the moment. My wife works from home so that part of the equation is good to go.
goolsbyjazz........fyi, the offer is from a company that contacted me and brought me out for an interview. They have offered to help with relocation as well.
2bindenver...that's a crazy story! Yeah we have a little more time than that, haha....very cool though that everything worked out for you.
DenverBrian....I believe the answers to your questions are both yes. The uncertainty about when that next offer might come is what concerns me as well. I am not going to take an offer just to be there but in this case, the offer is good. And yes....Denver is by far at the top of the list...I think it's a list of one actually....I have thought for years it would be a fantastic place to raise our kids.
Again, thanks to all for the input! They want an answer this week so I guess it's put up or shut up time!
07-02-2012, 05:14 PM
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I would go for it. I have no home to sell or kids to worry with and would love to have a job offer there. Just got back Friday from there and eager to find a job there and get moved! Good luck!
07-02-2012, 09:12 PM
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DenverBrian....I believe the answers to your questions are both yes. The uncertainty about when that next offer might come is what concerns me as well. I am not going to take an offer just to be there but in this case, the offer is good. And yes....Denver is by far at the top of the list...I think it's a list of one actually....I have thought for years it would be a fantastic place to raise our kids.
It is, and you...will...love it!
If you come by car, I can imagine the thrill your kids will get when they see the Front Range for the first time...I can imagine it because it's the thrill I got at age 10 on our big family vacation to Colorado. If it's possible to fall in love with a place, I sure did then. It's never faded.
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People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)