Proposed Initiative-66 to limit new housing on Front Range ignites fears in real estate industry (Denver: home, place to live)

[Josseppie]

The northern Colorado growth control measure gets go-ahead from Colorado Supreme Court so it will be interesting to see how it goes.


https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/n...-go-ahead.html

[2bindenver]

The home builders association is against this.

[TCHP]

What I don't think the people proposing this realize is that there are already some self limiting factors of future development that are currently impacting home construction. The state as a whole requires developers to provide a plan for 100 year access to water sources before plans can be approved. In El Paso County, this is even tougher as it requires a 300 year plan. This limitation is a part of the reason why new homes are not already going up like gang busters in spite of prices and in migration. If a developer has not already been working towards this requirement for the last 3-5 years, it could be at least that long before they could get all their ducks in a row to get approval to even proceed with a development plan and then you will have all the infrastructure layouts and approvals before a shovel of dirt is even turned over for street layout, nevermind actual home construction.

[LHS79]

Originally Posted by 1984

i haven’t driven in the denver area in over 4 1/2 years. Has the traffic gotten significantly worse since then?

Yes!!

Esp. I25 north and south of Denver

[Quietude]

Originally Posted by 2bindenver

The home builders association is against this.

Home builders' associations are against weeds, bad weather days, frowns, cars that get in the way of their delivery trucks, and anything that keeps them from rolling out divisions as fast as they can gun a bulldozer.

Been there, done that. Denver is about 20 years behind NCNTBA (Northern California Not The Bay Area); from about 1990 on I watched houses and condos roll over the terrain like locusts. Two small towns surrounded by farm/grazing land went from about 10,000 to - let me check - 132k and 170k, and that's just those town areas; multiply by about three for surrounding areas. Including one large parkland area - much smaller than most "towns" - that pols swore, up and down and on their sacred campaign funds, would never be developed. It's now about 65k.

And, barring the few gated, upscale and custom "communities," all complete sh*t "affordables" and condos, many disintegrating as you watch. The trendy, desirable areas are yet further out, on formerly bare hills.

Never turn your back on developers and builders. Never. They see an open vista the way a pack of wolves sees a stray sheep, although not so kindly. And they never, ever give up.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by Josseppie

The northern Colorado growth control measure gets go-ahead from Colorado Supreme Court so it will be interesting to see how it goes.


https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/n...-go-ahead.html

Will make the campaign season interesting.

Originally Posted by 2bindenver

The home builders association is against this.

Good!

[SkyDog77]

Originally Posted by 2bindenver

The home builders association is against this.

Wait....The Home Builders Association is against a law that will significantly slow home building?????

Shocking.

This is a stupid idea but this is hardly a surprising position.

[davidv]

Originally Posted by Josseppie

Question: If this passes how much extra growth will this mean for Pueblo county?

5,000 houses/ apartments more a year? 10,000? More or less? Asking for a friend. Lol just joking asking for me!

In my opinion, Pueblo will not see the growth initially. The growth will happen near Denver first, eg. Gilpin, Clear Creek, Park counties, Elbert counties. RTD already has park n rides near the county borders for that.

Growth near Colorado Springs will be in Teller, Elbert, and Park Counties. Pueblo growth will come later, and only if a growth in jobs occurs.

I can see greater density as the initiative pertains to new housing units. Changing single family homes into multifamily dwellings is a zoning change. The owner will need permits to change things inside the house, but that is not considered a new construction permit. A smart owner will make the changes first, then change zoning designation second.

[Josseppie]

Originally Posted by davidv

In my opinion, Pueblo will not see the growth initially. The growth will happen near Denver first, eg. Gilpin, Clear Creek, Park counties, Elbert counties. RTD already has park n rides near the county borders for that.

Growth near Colorado Springs will be in Teller, Elbert, and Park Counties. Pueblo growth will come later, and only if a growth in jobs occurs.

I can see greater density as the initiative pertains to new housing units. Changing single family homes into multifamily dwellings is a zoning change. The owner will need permits to change things inside the house, but that is not considered a new construction permit. A smart owner will make the changes first, then change zoning designation second.

Interesting. Frirst see if it passes or not then if it does see what it means to places like pueblo.

[whoisjongalt]

I think it's a great idea, especially if it discourages Amazon from moving here. THAT would be the nail in the coffin of Denver as a desirable place to live. Might as well live in L.A.