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I like Boca Burgers, but I much prefer black bean burgers if I'm going vegetarian for a night. I think one of the worst mistakes people do when making veggie burgers is trying to make a "faux meat" taste like the real thing. It never will and it will never have the same texture. However, you can make a YUMMY veggie burger if you avoid this path and by adding some seasonings, a good mix of ingredients, etc..
Beans and rice are a staple of vegetarian nights here. Most "faux meat" products aren't that good, and the ones that are somewhat flavorful are just really expensive. I'd rather just get some meat in me than try to imitate the taste. Otherwise, if I want to go meat free for a night, I'll use ingredients carefully to make something good.
This appears to be a balanced web article with links to scientific studies. It presents two sides of the argument. I am glad that I nursed both of my babies for a full year even though I currently do eat some soy products but am rethinking the soy isolate.
I like Boca Burgers, but I much prefer black bean burgers if I'm going vegetarian for a night. I think one of the worst mistakes people do when making veggie burgers is trying to make a "faux meat" taste like the real thing. It never will and it will never have the same texture. However, you can make a YUMMY veggie burger if you avoid this path and by adding some seasonings, a good mix of ingredients, etc..
Beans and rice are a staple of vegetarian nights here. Most "faux meat" products aren't that good, and the ones that are somewhat flavorful are just really expensive. I'd rather just get some meat in me than try to imitate the taste. Otherwise, if I want to go meat free for a night, I'll use ingredients carefully to make something good.
I like all kinds of gardenburgers - black bean and mushroom burgers are my favorite. I have a (Morningstar Farms) burger no bun about once a week along with some brown rice and a side salad. I do think they are healthier than the typical fast food burger - way less salt and fat.
I'm pretty sure the black bean and mushroom varieties also have soy in them, so I might look into making my own from scratch.
Soy is in a lot of different things now - many if not most cereals seem to have it these days. My general take is that it's probably fine for most of us to have in moderation.
Last edited by springfieldva; 08-10-2010 at 02:52 PM..
I drink a few ounces of organic soy milk three or four times a week (helps with the hot flashes ); veggie burgers and their ilk are too salty and too processed for me.
Soy just does not agree with me...flatulence off the chart Esp. soy milk. From what I've read, soy isn't necessarily a good thing for us to eat. I've eaten it my whole life...in Oriental food. In that small quantity it's ok. Wish it were different for me
BTW, soy candles don't seem to bother me...I love 'em.
For a while I was buying soy milk for my pre-teen daughter because she doesn't like regular milk, but I got spooked by the whole hormone thing so I stopped. Also, I read an article recently (in Mother Jones, I think) that said that in terms of the environment, meat may actually be better than soy because soy it takes so many resources to turn soy beans into things such as milk and meat substitutes.
We'll continue to use tofu in stirfries, etc., but not really for anything else.
Also, I read an article recently (in Mother Jones, I think) that said that in terms of the environment, meat may actually be better than soy because soy it takes so many resources to turn soy beans into things such as milk and meat substitutes.
Do you mean the article (a really short meat vs. soy debate) post in the June or July issue? That was just a silly pi$$ing match. What would you expect an animal farmer to say - that soy is more ecologically and environmentally friendly? He actually said that we (Americans) should be eating twice the amount of beef meat that we do. Seriously? I guess the AMA has a lot to learn. (Disregard if that's not the article you were talking about ` ).
Soy should be eaten fresh, within a few days of it being made. Real tofu and soy milk spoil within a couple of days. In the last posted article, they refer to it as "traditional soy." If you eat/buy anything that can keep for weeks or can be frozen, or if you buy soy milk in grocery stores like Safeway, Albertson's, etc. you are not getting the real stuff which it the only type that has health benefits, imo.
Unfortunately, fresh soy is just not that easy to find.
My problem with soy is what I have read about the estrogens and the potential for it to increase the incidence of Cancer in women. I wasn't aware of the thyroid connect too. Thanks...informative.
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); veggie burgers and their ilk are too salty and too processed for me.
Esp. soy milk. From what I've read, soy isn't necessarily a good thing for us to eat. I've eaten it my whole life...in Oriental food. In that small quantity it's ok. Wish it were different for me 
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