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Old 05-06-2023, 02:03 PM
 
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Illnesses, disability and different meds (like steroids) are more than capable of packing on weight.

That being said - there are people who do have complex relationships with food.
Finding help to cope with understanding why and what triggers overeating or eating unsuitable foods can only help with obesity.

Yes, very disordered, as-in addicted to overeating and/or binge-eating if you are getting hugely obese.

The things you mention, without a very disordered relationship with food,
the weight will not be pushed into anywhere near the range of being
morbidly-obese.
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Old 05-07-2023, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Hawaii/Alabama
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Yes, very disordered, as-in addicted to overeating and/or binge-eating if you are getting hugely obese.

The things you mention, without a very disordered relationship with food,
the weight will not be pushed into anywhere near the range of being
morbidly-obese.

Actually, it happens quite a bit with people with different disabilities. Problems with intestinal tracks can take the person on quite a horrifying ride. When one is already disabled other issues start piling up quickly.

The ability to exercise is really important and when one cannot and the person takes high doses of steroids weight begins to pile up.

I have friends who are in wheelchairs with different abilities. Many are able to continue with sports and exercise (I have a friend who competed in the Rio Paralympics). Friends who paddle, ski, surf, play tennis, bike & participate in basketball and murder ball who are able to continue to keep weight off; I also have friends who are high level quads and cannot exercise and end up morbidly obese.

Sorry about the tangent; I just wanted to answer your question.
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Old 05-07-2023, 01:47 PM
 
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According to my surgeon, about 20% of patients will gain back all if not more than they lost. I have seen people with unhealthy attitudes in support groups and I have seen more with good attitudes.
People gain back weight because that is our body. Our body wants us to have maximum weight for the bad times.

It has nothing to do with attitudes.

I mean you cut out the stomach and still gain it back. The human body is amazing.
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Old 05-07-2023, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Dessert
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It is not cost-effective beforehand, to require the 80% who do succeed, to have therapy.
The statistic quoted was that 20% had no improvement or got worse. They didn't mention what percentage was successful, but it would be less than 80%.
...Unless you would count losing just a pound or two as a successful return for a potentially dangerous surgery.
A friend recently died from an infection after weight loss surgery.
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Old 05-08-2023, 02:13 PM
 
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People gain back weight because that is our body. Our body wants us to have maximum weight for the bad times.

It has nothing to do with attitudes.

I mean you cut out the stomach and still gain it back. The human body is amazing.
Regain happens because people "eat around" their surgery. The stomach stretches and repetitive over eating causes that stretching- in both a "normal" stomach and one made smaller with bariatric surgeries. The bigger the stomach, the more food one can consume, more food= more calories for most people.

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The statistic quoted was that 20% had no improvement or got worse. They didn't mention what percentage was successful, but it would be less than 80%.
...Unless you would count losing just a pound or two as a successful return for a potentially dangerous surgery.
A friend recently died from an infection after weight loss surgery.
Your friend is very much an outlier- overall, bariatric surgeries have low mortality rates. Generally speaking, and the data backs this up- the older you are and the bigger you are, the higher the mortality rate. Even then, it's less than 1%. https://link.springer.com/article/10...64-020-07752-9

One recent survey, which looked at 40 years of data of matched surgical and non-surgical, shows post-op folks live longer than non-surgical patients that remained morbidly obese.
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