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Old 06-17-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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luzlanne -- we're so on the same page with a lot of this.
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:35 PM
 
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Well otoh the kooky website of Karen Kellock, Ph.D., an expert on fasting:
KAREN KELLOCK's INSPIRING THEORIES OF HYPER-SYNCHRONICITY VS. THE HERD
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Old 06-17-2012, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Wine Country
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Well otoh the kooky website of Karen Kellock, Ph.D., an expert on fasting:
KAREN KELLOCK's INSPIRING THEORIES OF HYPER-SYNCHRONICITY VS. THE HERD
OMG I just went to her website. Whatever she is selling I aint buying.
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Old 06-17-2012, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Southern Illinois
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luzlanne -- we're so on the same page with a lot of this.
Me too.

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What makes sense so me is: Fat is stored on our bodies to be a source of fuel when we are without food. Before your body can start burning fat, it first has to burn all the glucose available (starches/sugars/simple carbs). So if you are eating every three or four hours, your body doesn't really have a chance to get rid of all the glucose and start burning fat. But if you eat one meal a day, you burn through all the glucose and are burning stored fat before the next meal. I guess a low carb diet would allow you to eat and still continue to burn fat because you'd be in ketosis and wouldn't be eating any carbs/sugars. Still you'd have to burn those calories before burning fat.
Yes, before I started to do this last week, I was on a low carb/gluten free diet for 8 weeks and lost a grand total of 6 lbs during that time--not even 1 lb/week. I have lost 5 this week alone from doing IF, so it's working. I have wondered if my body was so insulin resistant that it interpreted any food as sugar and kept my insulin up anyway. Whatever the case, I feel less IR now and I can tell b/c my heartbeats have calmed down.

Some of the medical benefits I found out about: 1. may help prevent alzheimer's--this is what alerted me to IF in the first place--I've been studying up on AD prevention b/c of my mother having it and much of the evidence is pointing to insulin resistance and inflammation as the likely culprits. IF reduces inflammation. 2. Increases HGH by up to 2000% in men and 1300% in women. HGH (your own--not the stuff on the market) will burn fat and increase muscle size and even tone your skin so you don't get the sagging from the weight loss. From wiki:
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In addition to increasing height in children and adolescents, growth hormone has many other effects on the body:
Increases calcium retention, and strengthens and increases the mineralization of bone
Increases muscle mass through sarcomere hyperplasia
Promotes lipolysis
Increases protein synthesis
Stimulates the growth of all internal organs excluding the brain
Plays a role in homeostasis
Reduces liver uptake of glucose
Promotes gluconeogenesis in the liver[30]
Contributes to the maintenance and function of pancreatic islets
Stimulates the immune system
The reason this works is b/c when you're hungry you produce more ghrelin and ghrelin stimulates HGH production. Also from wiki:
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Ghrelin plays a significant role in neurotrophy, particularly in the hippocampus, and is essential for cognitive adaptation to changing environments and the process of learning. . . Animal models indicate that ghrelin may enter the hippocampus from the bloodstream, altering nerve-cell connections, and so enhancing learning and memory. It is suggested that learning may be best during the day and when the stomach is empty, since ghrelin levels are higher at these times.
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Old 06-17-2012, 06:45 PM
 
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OMG I just went to her website. Whatever she is selling I aint buying.
Why does this not surprise me?

Mercola has written some stuff on his site about fasting; here is one of his videos:


Benefits of Intermittent Fasting - YouTube
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:41 PM
 
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Anyone can write or say anything about anything and put it on Youtube or write a blog about it. This does not make them an expert. People can have personal experiences and feel strongly about what works for them. This does not make them an expert. People can make a product and try and sell it on the internet and that does not make them an expert. People can come up with crack pot ideas about diet and desperate people will be interested. That does not make them an expert.
The more wacky crap you post markymarc makes it clear you have a hard time telling facts from fiction.
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:29 AM
 
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OMG I just went to her website. Whatever she is selling I aint buying.
Wow - you and me both - what a wacko!
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:45 AM
 
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Anyone can write or say anything about anything and put it on Youtube or write a blog about it. This does not make them an expert. People can have personal experiences and feel strongly about what works for them. This does not make them an expert. People can make a product and try and sell it on the internet and that does not make them an expert. People can come up with crack pot ideas about diet and desperate people will be interested. That does not make them an expert.
The more wacky crap you post markymarc makes it clear you have a hard time telling facts from fiction.
Well good luck on your hunt for the truth. Anyone can go to school, get a degree, work, learn new things, gain experience and still be a total idiot in your world.
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:40 PM
 
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Well good luck on your hunt for the truth. Anyone can go to school, get a degree, work, learn new things, gain experience and still be a total idiot in your world.
Of course people learn new things all the time. I learn new things all the time. However people who have somehow stumbled of on the keys to diet and exercise I do not put a lot of stock into. Everyone has a story. I am going to stick to the tried and true method that has worked just fine for me.
Until you can provide some peer reviewed data (and by that I do not mean a bunch of bloggers who agree with one another) that has been PROVEN to be successful for a significant amount of people I am not biting. You will also need to provide the same for the tried and true methods that you say do not work. Until you do that I am simply not interested in your pseudo intellect on this topic.
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:54 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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One thing I know, low-carb was a fail.
Stepka, why was lo-carb a fail? I had wild success on low-card, higher-protein (I used the book "Protein Power", written by 2 MD's). The book also shows you how to ease off the diet gradually, so you don't gain the weight back, and how to do a maintenance diet. Which Low-carb diet did you try?
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