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Old 11-22-2017, 12:05 PM
 
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There are other sources of fiber besides grains. I consume a LOT of vegetables to combat this problem.

This is a funny word I heard the other day in a movie called "Victoria and Abdul" and they mentioned the queen was not getting enough in her diet.

roughage
fibrous indigestible material in vegetable foodstuffs that aids the passage of food and waste products through the gut.

It may be TMI but I know what you are talking about. Cheese is the worst thing for this as you may well know.
You never heard the word "roughage" before?

It's not commonly used now that the concept of "fiber" has become popular, but it's a word that's been around for a while.
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Old 11-22-2017, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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There are other sources of fiber besides grains. I consume a LOT of vegetables to combat this problem.

This is a funny word I heard the other day in a movie called "Victoria and Abdul" and they mentioned the queen was not getting enough in her diet.

roughage
fibrous indigestible material in vegetable foodstuffs that aids the passage of food and waste products through the gut.

It may be TMI but I know what you are talking about. Cheese is the worst thing for this as you may well know.
I actually ate homemade baked beans yesterday. My body's not happy with me right now lol
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Old 11-22-2017, 01:20 PM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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You never heard the word "roughage" before?

It's not commonly used now that the concept of "fiber" has become popular, but it's a word that's been around for a while.
I had heard of it but never connected it, at least not in this context. What's funny is how they used it in the movie. They talked about the queen not having any "movements" and that she needed her rouphage. It's been around for quite a while (since 1850 according to Webster). It's not something I would use.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/roughage
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Old 11-25-2017, 07:59 PM
 
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I had heard of it but never connected it, at least not in this context. What's funny is how they used it in the movie. They talked about the queen not having any "movements" and that she needed her rouphage. It's been around for quite a while (since 1850 according to Webster). It's not something I would use.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/roughage
Yes, I think it's an older term not in use so much anymore.
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Old 11-26-2017, 07:50 AM
 
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I had heard of it but never connected it, at least not in this context. What's funny is how they used it in the movie. They talked about the queen not having any "movements" and that she needed her rouphage. It's been around for quite a while (since 1850 according to Webster). It's not something I would use.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/roughage

Here's the history of "needing roughage" in our diets: the British missionary doctors in Africa in the 19th century noticed that Africans, who ate a diet consisting largely of root veggies, had very large, voluminous BMs, while the Brits, who ate meat based diets, had relatively small BMs. Then they noticed that Brits have a certain rate of colon cancer and colon cancer was very rare among the natives.

They put two and two together and decided that large amounts of fiber in the diet prevented colon cancer. This has been the working paradigm of enlightened western medicine since then.

But one problem with the logic: life expectancy among Africans at the time was only about 30 yrs, while that of the Brits was much higher. Africans didn't often live long enough to get colon cancer, a disease of the sixth decade and beyond.

Research in recent yrs has shown that dietary fiber is not nearly as important as formerly thought. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutriti...-colon-cancer/
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Old 11-26-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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Here's the history of "needing roughage" in our diets: the British missionary doctors in Africa in the 19th century noticed that Africans, who ate a diet consisting largely of root veggies, had very large, voluminous BMs, while the Brits, who ate meat based diets, had relatively small BMs. Then they noticed that Brits have a certain rate of colon cancer and colon cancer was very rare among the natives.

They put two and two together and decided that large amounts of fiber in the diet prevented colon cancer. This has been the working paradigm of enlightened western medicine since then.

But one problem with the logic: life expectancy among Africans at the time was only about 30 yrs, while that of the Brits was much higher. Africans didn't often live long enough to get colon cancer, a disease of the sixth decade and beyond.

Research in recent yrs has shown that dietary fiber is not nearly as important as formerly thought. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutriti...-colon-cancer/
That study was done for fiber and colon cancer. Fiber is still very important for a healthy diet despite its role in colon cancer.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/fiber/art-20043983

http://www.eatingwell.com/article/287742/10-amazing-health-benefits-of-eating-more-fiber/
https://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/1141.aspx?categoryid=51
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