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Old 07-23-2019, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I know Carnivore triggers the vegans out there and many mainstreamers roll their eyes with mental images of clogged arteries and such, but to those who at least want to open their minds on a different perspective...

Amber O'Hearn is a colleague of mine from academia (I've cited her work in my dissertation), computational linguist and machine learning specialist. She turned to the carnivore diet around a decade ago. For her, it was the only way she could keep her weight off (even a keto diet didn't work in the long run) and for her to deal with her bipolar depression (she's been able to drop her psychiatric meds since going Carnivore, 10 years ago). She shares her thoughts on the subject and plant neurotoxicity (nutrient inhibitory factors, etc). Excellent material from a sharp sharp person.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YarHSFIUOeY
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Old 07-23-2019, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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Another crackpot. There is no science as of yet to back up this claim. This diet sounds like a very bad idea.
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Old 07-23-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Another crackpot. There is no science as of yet to back up this claim. This diet sounds like a very bad idea.
You watched that video fast! I posted the 15 minute video a mere 14 minutes before you responded with that well reasoned and high entropy response. Good job!

Science below for your edification:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12717675

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5456214/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isIw2AN_-XU

Bioavailability of nutrients are potentially more of a concern when eating starchy foods and plants as research suggests.

You're welcome!
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Old 07-23-2019, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Dark Side of the Moon
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Interesting. I know everyone's body is different and reacts well, poorly, or indifferently to different types of food, especially those people with chronic illnesses.

I've been on ketogenic for 10+ years for epilepsy, so I know my diet seemed "crackpot" or weird to people before keto became popular. (It's been used since the 1920s for epilepsy, which many people don't know was its first medicinal application in western medicine.)

Just because something doesn't work for one person, doesn't means it's not good for another.
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Old 07-23-2019, 06:59 PM
 
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Horror show, 50¢. But really, veganism and animal rights issues are too engrained in me to see this as anything but the ultimate in selfishness. I'd rather starve than eat the dead body of some poor creature.
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Old 07-23-2019, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Horror show, 50¢. But really, veganism and animal rights issues are too engrained in me to see this as anything but the ultimate in selfishness. I'd rather starve than eat the dead body of some poor creature.
Actually, a Carnivore dieter who incorporates IF will probably have a lower net carbon footprint than a vegan who eats plant based snacks constantly throughout the day because the carbs keep them hungry all the time. If that carnivore person incorporates organ meat, it's cheaper and more convenient to boot.
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Old 07-23-2019, 08:22 PM
 
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Actually, a Carnivore dieter who incorporates IF will probably have a lower net carbon footprint than a vegan who eats plant based snacks constantly throughout the day because the carbs keep them hungry all the time. If that carnivore person incorporates organ meat, it's cheaper and more convenient to boot.
Actually, my concern is the animals and their suffering.
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Old 07-23-2019, 11:31 PM
 
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Would not recommend any diet that cuts out entire food groups likely to be expensive as well.
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Old 07-27-2019, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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I love meat and will never stop eating it. But I’m an omnivore and I always will be, regardless of what some academic thinks. Our dentition reflects our omnivorous status as does our digestive system.
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Old 07-28-2019, 08:52 AM
 
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Our dentition reflects our omnivorous status as does our digestive system.

I'm really surprised no one said anything. I'm sorry, but you have it exactly backwards:

Claws and teeth Carnivores have claws, sharp front teeth capable of subduing prey, and no flat molars for chewing. Herbivores have no claws or sharp front teeth capable of subduing prey, but they have flat molars for chewing. Humans have the same characteristics as herbivores.

Shape of intestines Carnivore bowels are smooth, shaped like a pipe, so meat passes through quickly — they don’t have bumps or pockets. Herbivore bowels are bumpy and pouch-like with lots of pockets, like a windy mountain road, so plant foods pass through slowly for optimal nutrient absorption. Human bowels have the same characteristics as those of herbivores.

Intestinal tract length Carnivorous animals have intestinal tracts that are 3-6x their body length, while herbivores have intestinal tracts 10-12x their body length. Human beings have the same intestinal tract ratio as herbivores.

Herbivore characteristics are also found in human saliva, stomach acidity, and tolerance to cholesterol.

https://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/20...-herbivores-2/
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