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So according to you not having a pet that is taller, leaner, vs. millions of perfectly fine animals being killed every year due to indiscriminate breeding
A. If you're worried about growth issues, wait till they're done with most of their growing. Both my big dogs stopped increasing their height at about 6 months. They then just filled out muscle-wise.
B. Increased risk of obesity? Really? Dogs can only eat what you give them, so that should be pretty easy to control.
We've always spayed/neutered at the 6 mth mark. We do have one grade 5 SAS pup, our special needs girl we took in that had to undergo heart surgery at 14 weeks to insert a balloon into her aurotic artery. This was her only chance for survival. She cannot be spayed because she can never be put under w/ anethesia because it could cause heart arrhythmia and death.
So according to you not having a pet that is taller, leaner, vs. millions of perfectly fine animals being killed every year due to indiscriminate breeding
WTF
YES, because MY intact dog is not allowed to breed.
The change in structure can impair efficient movement which can be an issue for a working dog OR a pet dog that is involved in outdoor activities such as an agility dog, a running partner, etc.
My intact male is able to work in the presence of a ***** in heat. Would I EVER trust him unsupervised - absolutely not! Is there a reason I have a 6 foot privacy fence in my backyard and would not leave my property and him out in the fence - absolutely!
I don't really care what people think about this other than the fact that some states are enacting laws to mandate this and to mandate it for younger and younger dogs.
I would be glad to pay an extra fee to license my intact dog.
In some countries dogs are even DNA'd to ID poop so why not puppies; just make it part of an additional licensing fee?
Listen, I know you would say this is unenforceable but no less so than a spay neuter ban. One would presume you would do away with dog breeds altogether or make the show breeders [aaaaaaaaaaaaaack] the only ones allowed to keep intact stock?
One would presume you would do away with dog breeds altogether or make the show breeders [aaaaaaaaaaaaaack] the only ones allowed to keep intact stock?
I am sure there are plenty of spay/neuter zealots who indeed want to do away with dog breeds altogether.
And to them I offer my own WTF.
Yes, in regards to the growth issue - it takes a larger dog 3 to 4 years to completely mature and grow up. After all the health considerations, temperament considerations, etc. I don't know why people feel affronted that I have made this choice.
Not referring only to ME but to others who have made such a choice.
I am a very responsible dog owner. I should not be punished for the offenses of those who are not. We do this all the time with laws. We have so many laws that we cannot enforce them all as it is. Instead of limiting everyones behavior because it may cause harm. Why not actually punish those who allow their behavior TO cause harm?
i think what this all boils down to is this..... granny, you and starla are obviously responsible owners.... you are aware of the potential consequences of not spaying or neutering your pets and are willing and able to take the necessary measures to prevent them..... it can be a lot of work, as i know you are aware......
the sad reality is that MOST people who have pets are NOT willing to put the necessary time and effort into preventing unintended consequences..... and so we have the overflowing shelters and the millions of pets killed each year because there is just no room for them all....
are you being "punished" because of other's failings?? ABSOLUTELY.....
ALL pay the price for the irresponsible..... in this as in so many other aspects of our lives........
IT is true that all pray the price for the irresponsible ....... always has been but I would expect that those who want to enact such laws bend their ears and listen to people with opposing views.
The point of this thread was "why doesn't every pet owner spay/neuter" so when people answer why they don't, then it becomes an argument for the sake of arguing and not a true discussion of "why don't you feel the way that I do?"
Or maybe I mis-read. Perhaps it was to be an opportunity for folks to complain about those of us who think differently and pat themselves on the back?
The hispanics that didn't do it in El Paso told me it was for religious reasons.
Hmm I was unaware that dogs and cats practiced religion. It seems like a lame excuse to me. I saw so many stray/loose/dumped dogs in El Paso the male ones you could tell were not neutered. All 3 of my dogs were adopted from the shelter there and were spayed/neutered before we took them home. I see why they require it
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