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Then how do you account for the vast majority who do, and did?
as the comedian ron white said "the difference between tiger woods and most men who havent had an affair is opportunity" most men who claim how loyal they are and havent had affairs can only do so because they havent had the opportunity...
take a look around at how bringing law suites has become the american lottery . look at how many of those on un-employment work off the books while collecting or will just keep collecting un-employment until it runs out like they are on a paid vacation and then they will look for work, how many are on ssi disability and working off the books..
the welfare system is abused every which way and look at insurance company statistics for fraud and padded insurance claims when folks get the chance,..
even the kabbutz system failed in israel because it became human nature to take more then you gave back to your village wherever you could.
guess that sums up how i account. maybe you see things differently but facts are facts. the more the governments give the more many people will take whether they need it or not. all they need is the opportunity to get it.
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as the comedian ron white said "the difference between tiger woods and most men who havent had an affair is oppertunity" most men who claim how loyal they are and havent had affairs can only do so because they havent had the oppertunity...
take a look aroiund at how bringing law suites has become the american lottery . look at how many of those on un-employment work off the books while collecting or will just keep collecting un-employment until it runs out like they are on a paid vacation and then they will look for work, how many are on ssi disability and working off the books..
the welfare system is abused every which way and look at insurance company statistics for fraud and padded insurance claims when folks get the chance,..
even the kabbutz system failed in israel because it became human nature to take more then you gave back to your village wherever you could.
guess that sums up how i account. maybe you see things differently but facts are facts. the more the governments give the more many people will take whether they need it or not. all they need is the oppertunity to get it.
Translation = it's easy to be faithful when no one wants to f@#k you! This is very true.
If someone is approaching middle aged, they should focus on living below their means, living in a thriving job market, and keep their technical skills up-to-date. All of which are fairly common sense.
As long as the US gets the deficit under control by either cutting spending or raising taxes, then our economy will be fine. On an individual level though, I would not want to be turn 50 in ten years and be facing a sea of young workers who are twice as productive because they have honed computer skills since they were three.
the more the governments give the more many people will take whether they need it or not. all they need is the opportunity to get it.
I don't see any successful people taking from the government, nor do they want to. It's the people who are either (1) really truly needy or (2) really truly lazy who take help at any given opportunity. The trick for the millions of paid government employees (how many per square mile in NJ?) is to weed out #2 from the recipients.
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The same ones that you applaud for their virtuous personal responsibility.
In short, we should depend on the people who are responsible, to use their skills and talents and energies to make American great, not just themselves.
I think you misunderstood my post entirely. Personal responsibility does not equal being selfish or only out for one's self, IMO. What I meant by personal responsibility is basically just doing the best you can and choosing right over wrong. If you teach your children fiscal responsibility, how to "play nice in the sandbox", and to help others when they ask, how is that wrong? I think kids learn by example. Doesn't it make sense to be personally responsible and get your own life in order so that you then can "use your skills and talents and energies to make America great"? After all, the only thing in life that one can control is one's own actions.
In short, we should depend on the people who are responsible, to use their skills and talents and energies to make American great, not just themselves.
Many ( but not all ) of those who are extremely talented and wired for success do indeed use their blessings mostly for their own benefit. On top of that, instead of lending a helping hand to those less fortunate, they use their power and wealth to keep the less fortunate subservient to them.
I don't see any successful people taking from the government, nor do they want to.
You've forgotten TARP already?
Let's do some simple arithmetic. Say your income is $2-million (which qualifies as 'successful'). You and the other rich crybabies can just barely get by on that, so you form lobby groups to persuade the government to reduce your taxes. Your income tax was 35%, and the government reduces it to 34%. That comes to a tax reduction of $20,000, which is cash handed back to you by the government, through the 'welfare' system of lowering taxes.
That sure smells like successful people taking $20K from the government, which is a great deal more than any poor person ever "takes" from the government in any year.
The actual reduction in tax rates has gone from 39% to 35% since Bush was elected, so you can really call it $80,000 if you really want to be fair about how much money the government has given to the rich. Times eight years, so let's call it $640,000.
Which is more than the take home pay for a worker at the poverty level in an entire lifetime (He pays taxes, too, you know.) Just given to the successful.
Taxes taken from the low-wage "unsuccessful", and just handed, as cash, to the "successful" millionaires. Who, you say, "don't even want it".
Let me put it in a very simple picture. The government has an envelope with $5,000 in it. What should they do with it? Should they give it back to the millionaire, as a refund through a tax cut, to apply to his sailboat payments? Or should they give it to a household with two full time workers with kids in school and a $5,000 balance on their credit card and say "Here, get out of debt and back on your feet". And you don't see any successful people taking from the government.
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This is very true.
