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Old 03-23-2011, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I remember watching a program discussing how the fish population experienced a major comeback following WW2, due to the decline of the fishing industry during the war. Does anyone perceive this happening in Asia, since much of Japan's fishing industry was destroyed recently? Will the Chinese or Koreans begin fishing in waters normally fished by Japanese boats?
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Old 03-23-2011, 02:54 PM
 
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I remember watching a program discussing how the fish population experienced a major comeback following WW2, due to the decline of the fishing industry during the war. Does anyone perceive this happening in Asia, since much of Japan's fishing industry was destroyed recently? Will the Chinese or Koreans begin fishing in waters normally fished by Japanese boats?
The oceans are generally heavily over-fished right now as it is.

In the short term, the demand will remain largely unchanged so prices will increase incenting various fishing outfits around the world to pick up some of the slack.

Within a year or so boats will have been replaced so I just don't see any serious dip in fishing allowing depleted stocks to recover much if at all.
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Old 03-23-2011, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Are you at all in tune with the factor of nuclear radiation in Japanese fish now and in the future? I'm sure any reports of high levels will not be accurately reported, how can it?
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Old 03-23-2011, 06:30 PM
 
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Maybe by measuring, then reporting?

Seawater radioactivity high / Sample shows large iodine concentrations near nuclear plant : National : DAILY YOMIURI ONLINE (The Daily Yomiuri)

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At 2:30 p.m. Monday, TEPCO collected 500 milliliters of seawater at a point 100 meters south of the outlet, from which waste liquid is drained into the sea.

A total of 5.066 becquerel of iodine-131 per milliliter was detected, a level 126.7 times more than the yearly limit a person can safely ingest as set by the Nuclear Reactor Regulation Law.

If a person ingested two liters of water at this level of contamination over a three-day period, it would be equivalent to being exposed to an annual dose of radiation according to government-set safety standards, the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said.

The seawater sample also had a level of cesium-134 that was 24.8 times more than the safety limit, while cesium-137 was 16.5 times above the safety limit.
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:01 AM
 
Location: Tower of Heaven
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It's a joke right ? Their ports for fishing are destroyed or damaged and some parts of ocean are hit by nuclear accidents...
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:14 AM
 
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Not really.

Seems to be some confusion (accidental, or not?) about Radioactive Iodine and comparing it to generic radiation exposure. Silly comparison at best, totally misleading in the broader sense.

The Iodine does not directly "get" you by external exposure. The skin does a fair job of deflection low level radiation. However, Radioactive Iodine, once internal is placed into the thyroid and causes cancer from the inside out.

Do you figure most of the "reporters," as you say, do not know this?
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:16 AM
 
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It's a joke right ? Their ports for fishing are destroyed or damaged and some parts of ocean are hit by nuclear accidents...
That sounds very much pessimist.
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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I remember watching a program discussing how the fish population experienced a major comeback following WW2, due to the decline of the fishing industry during the war. Does anyone perceive this happening in Asia, since much of Japan's fishing industry was destroyed recently? Will the Chinese or Koreans begin fishing in waters normally fished by Japanese boats?
I doubt there'll be a change at all. Loads of fishing boats were out at sea where they were safe, and they can probably just bring what they catch to other processing plants rather than the ones that were taken out.
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Old 03-25-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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It's a joke right ? Their ports for fishing are destroyed or damaged and some parts of ocean are hit by nuclear accidents...
A lot of the big commercial fishing rigs actually process the fish as they catch them. They can just off load elsewhere.

The ocean is a BIG place and saltwater is quite effective and knocking down the radiation. (see Bikini Atoll)

So even if you didn't fish within 100miles of the nuke plant that represents about 1/45,000 of the total area of the pacific ocean.

Another way to look at it....that area is about the size of a closed cell phone sitting on a basketball court.
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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Not really.

Seems to be some confusion (accidental, or not?) about Radioactive Iodine and comparing it to generic radiation exposure. Silly comparison at best, totally misleading in the broader sense.

The Iodine does not directly "get" you by external exposure. The skin does a fair job of deflection low level radiation. However, Radioactive Iodine, once internal is placed into the thyroid and causes cancer from the inside out.

Do you figure most of the "reporters," as you say, do not know this?
The Japanese gov't, like all gov'ts, puts there own spin on things in order to preserve their interests especially in a time of crisis. How much real reporting occurred about the safety of fish consumption after our Gulf oil spill? Do you really think that the Japanese gov't is going to say Yeah, our fish is contaminated, don't buy it from us world? I would not believe any reporting on this by non-independent sources, sorry.
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