Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-29-2012, 08:35 PM
 
1,139 posts, read 3,467,645 times
Reputation: 799

Advertisements

Link: Something is Wrong when a U.S. Soldier Costs $1 Million a Year - Yahoo! News

"According to CNN, the Pentagon comptroller said during a congressional budget meeting that it cost "about $850,000 per soldier" per year in Afghanistan. Meanwhile, the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments reached a more expensive conclusion: $1.2 million per soldier per year. The estimate is supposed to increase for 2012. "

I was 'stunned' to see we are spending $1M per soldier - no wonder our economy is going bankrupt with increasing deficit every year and there is no clear plan on paying down national debt
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-01-2012, 06:24 AM
 
2,729 posts, read 5,204,742 times
Reputation: 2357
Yep, war is expensive both in life and our pocket book. That's why strong diplomacy and then a carrot is the most effective way in most cases.

BTW, what's this got to do with Tampa Bay?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-01-2012, 12:49 PM
 
4,918 posts, read 22,684,013 times
Reputation: 6303
Wait until you see the cost per civilian contractor
(and there is no requirments that they actually perform the work)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-02-2012, 01:23 AM
 
224 posts, read 551,326 times
Reputation: 147
I remember hearing when this war begun that their real plan was to lure us into what we are doing now and defeat us by draining our money out. Now if that was common knowledge why why why are we doing exactly what they wanted? It was on tv, they said knowing aobut our past reactions to things like vietnam etc we get entrenched in stuff like this and an attack on our soil would make us react and get into it and not only drain us financially but bring money into that region. That whole crowd is pretty smart, they went to college, and sit around figuring out how to win a war. I think they might have succeeded.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-02-2012, 07:17 AM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
12,546 posts, read 21,406,479 times
Reputation: 3730
Quote:
Originally Posted by alphacoyle View Post
I remember hearing when this war begun that their real plan was to lure us into what we are doing now and defeat us by draining our money out. Now if that was common knowledge why why why are we doing exactly what they wanted? It was on tv, they said knowing aobut our past reactions to things like vietnam etc we get entrenched in stuff like this and an attack on our soil would make us react and get into it and not only drain us financially but bring money into that region. That whole crowd is pretty smart, they went to college, and sit around figuring out how to win a war. I think they might have succeeded.
It's a nice conspiracy theory, and I could definitely see the strategy of a "weaker" opponent seeking to essentially tire us out over time. It's certainly sucking a heckuvalot of money out of our economy that could be put to much better use, but the lobbyists for defense contractors would disagree with me.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-02-2012, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Dayton OH
5,765 posts, read 11,376,630 times
Reputation: 13570
I'm not surprised or shocked. Afghanistan is one of the worst case supply chain scenarios that anyone could every imagine for long term US military involvement. It is almost exactly on the opposite side of the planet from the USA (East or West coast, about the same distance). None of the neighboring lands of Afghanistan are true friends or trusted allies of the US, and the biggest neighbor to the west (Iran) is the most hostile nation to the US that I can think of. The US has to bribe Pakistan and back pedal every which way in order to use the port of Karachi for shipments of supplies to Afghanistan, but it does not get there cheaply from Karachi. The 800+ mile land route from Karachi to Afghanistan is over trecherous and dangerous roads. Guard rails on the tight curve above a half mile tall cliff? Who needs guard rails?

Pakastani trucking companies are getting top dollar for those truck trips. I would not be surprised if the Taliban owns some of those trucking companies, to help finance the Taliban. US trucking companies would drool at the cost per kilometer that the US military is paying for trucks to deliver to Afghanistan. Of course, US trucking companies don't need heavily armed convoys to accompany the typical semi tractor trailer along the US interstate highway system.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-03-2012, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Afghanistan
152 posts, read 498,094 times
Reputation: 196
It's easily over 1 million. It costs so much because the US has essentially contracted out this war. The guy who preps my food is not some PFC on KP its an India national who is paid about 2.80 an hour. Its not just laundry and other menial jobs it's also the mechanics who do up armor who are, to the max extent possible Third Country Nationals (TCNs) the cost of all these services are wrapped in in the cost to arrive at the 1 million dollar fiqure.

Lets not forget our solders, I know this may sound like blastphemy but think about it we take a 18 Yo with no skills, train them and after 4 years they are getting housing, medical and 24K a year (E4) and officer with the same time in (Captain) makes 60K.

If they stay until retirement they get 2.5% of high 3 in pension for the rest of their lives 100% indexed to inflation. Compare that to the nearest comp - a Federal employee with 'generous' pension at 1% partially indexed to inflation which can't be drawn to 60 under most circumstances. Both pay 100% social security. A somewhat specialized US expat contractor makes 120K/year of which the first 90K is tax free. Very specialized takes in 230K/yr, no pension though.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-03-2012, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Atlanta & NYC
6,616 posts, read 13,831,744 times
Reputation: 6664
This statistic is nothing new and rises all the time. War can sometimes help boost an economy, as WWII did in the 1940s, but this war is just a waste (similar to Vietnam) in my opinion.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-05-2012, 02:14 PM
 
370 posts, read 1,564,762 times
Reputation: 254
Traegar- You forgot Food Stamps (Sorry, Nutrition Assistance).
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-06-2012, 06:12 PM
 
6,822 posts, read 6,636,718 times
Reputation: 3770
Ever wonder why we've been fighting the bad guys over in Afghanistan when Mexicans are freely walking across the southern border.

Couldn't they just walk across?

Two planes. Three buildings down.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:26 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top