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Old 09-19-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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The Fed's balance sheet will grow forever, they are leveraged more than 50:1. Everything they do hurts the productive in the economy. We suffer as the few speculate. What are the best strategies to protect the wealth of the worker/saver/productive investor? Are there things we can to to try and collapse the Fed?
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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The Fed's balance sheet will grow forever, they are leveraged more than 50:1. Everything they do hurts the productive in the economy. We suffer as the few speculate. What are the best strategies to protect the wealth of the worker/saver/productive investor? Are there things we can to to try and collapse the Fed?
The fed will scale back it's growth, just not until we have a new chairman. The new chairman will start to scale back while blaming the problems on Bernanke to justify the resulting market dip. Once Bernanke steps down, move your investments heavily into fixed income. Once the coming market downturn happens, move them back into equity to ride the resulting upswing.

"Volatility is opportunity"
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:43 AM
 
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"Volatility is opportunity"
Truer words were never spoken! You just need to know which way it will swing.
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Berkeley, Denver, CO USA
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Default what can be done to stop it?

To the barricades!
¡Revolución!
Off with his head!
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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The fed will scale back it's growth, just not until we have a new chairman.
Ha ha guess again.

Wall Street will punish the Fed and all the rest of us by driving the market down any time the Fed thinks about returning to free market principals. Why? Bevause Wall Street is the major beneficiary of QE policy. Free money to them.

The Fed likes to think that extra money in the hands of the Big Banks and Wall Street will lead to more lending to those who want to expand or start new businesses. ROFL. All Wall street wants is more free cash so management can line their own pockets while screwing their clients.
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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The Fed's balance sheet will grow forever, they are leveraged more than 50:1. Everything they do hurts the productive in the economy. We suffer as the few speculate. What are the best strategies to protect the wealth of the worker/saver/productive investor? Are there things we can to to try and collapse the Fed?

Seniors have been silent throughout the Bernanke two-step: "printing" money (yes, we all know it's digital), and keeping interest rates next to zero. It's hurting them most, while allowing credit-lovers to rack up bills again.
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:42 AM
 
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Ha ha guess again.

Wall Street will punish the Fed and all the rest of us by driving the market down any time the Fed thinks about returning to free market principals. Why? Bevause Wall Street is the major beneficiary of QE policy. Free money to them.

The Fed likes to think that extra money in the hands of the Big Banks and Wall Street will lead to more lending to those who want to expand or start new businesses. ROFL. All Wall street wants is more free cash so management can line their own pockets while screwing their clients.
No they won't...I work on wall street and we pray every day that the fed will start tapering. We would much rather have a stable economy so that we can start investing long term again instead of sitting on a house of cards, having to guess what markets will do in the next six months.

Wall street does not want more 'free cash', and 99% of wall street wants what is best for their clients, not just more money in their pockets. Obviously that fact doesn't make it on the news, because it doesn't drive as high of ratings as the drivel we see reported about wall street today. Do you base your assumptions on reality, or on motherjones.com articles?
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Old 09-19-2013, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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No they won't...I work on wall street and we pray every day that the fed will start tapering. We would much rather have a stable economy so that we can start investing long term again instead of sitting on a house of cards, having to guess what markets will do in the next six months.

Wall street does not want more 'free cash', and 99% of wall street wants what is best for their clients, not just more money in their pockets. Obviously that fact doesn't make it on the news, because it doesn't drive as high of ratings as the drivel we see reported about wall street today. Do you base your assumptions on reality, or on motherjones.com articles?
I think that real investors want the market to set rates, but the parasite class is based on insider trading, not investment. You on Wall Street who actually want to have a stable economy are the majority, but the minority control the Fed and care not about who they hurt. I have come to the realization that only total collapse brings hope of a new economy. Well, if the masses do not fall for the "solutions" from the 0.001%
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Old 09-19-2013, 10:19 AM
 
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I think that real investors want the market to set rates, but the parasite class is based on insider trading, not investment. You on Wall Street who actually want to have a stable economy are the majority, but the minority control the Fed and care not about who they hurt. I have come to the realization that only total collapse brings hope of a new economy. Well, if the masses do not fall for the "solutions" from the 0.001%
One of the biggest problems I see from my perspective is the unbelievable lack of education among the middle class when it comes to finances and economics. Most people blindly trust what they see on the news, or simply don't think about it at all. We won't have any resolution until we start actually educating people on how markets, finances and economies actually work.

The big question I keep asking is why aren't 2-3 finance courses mandatory curriculum in every high school in the country? Imposing that requirement alone would solve a lot of our problems.
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Old 09-19-2013, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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If people really knew how the markets work, Bernanke would be on the "most wanted dead or alive" list and they would be targeting the wealthy parasites who live in places like here in Miami.
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