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some people say companies are bringing their manufacturing to other poor countries to exploit the poor people. and other reasons, but what do you think about that ?
How about all the foreign companies that are moving their jobs and money to this country. Something everyone knows is that there are 13 auto companies with big factories in the United States. Only 2 of those 13 are American owned companies. More foreign owned companies building cars in the U.S. produce a lot more cars than the U.S. owned companies. And this just in one industry.
Xiao Wang is 30 years old and lives in a small village in China along with wife, four parents, and his kid. Their household income is about $4k/year from a combination of the small plot farming soy and occasional odd job that pops up hauling bricks etc.
Xiao Wang discovers he can move to Shenzhen and work on a manufacturing line for $6k/year, sending most of it home to help his family. The income the remaining family members generate back at the village won't be impacted much since there isn't that much work so can be handled by wife/parents/kid.
After a year Xiao Wang's family has a new scooter, their home has new windows, the daughter has school supplies, and the parents are enjoying being able to afford more meat in the diet when they cook the family meals.
How is Wang being exploited? He doubled his family income and raised their standard of living by voluntarily taking advantage of the opportunity to work for a much higher wage. He's learning new skills, and while it is hard being away from his family and working long hours he believe it is worth what his family gains, in fact his biggest fear is probably rumors of manufacturing moving to somewhere cheaper like Indonesia.
Xiao Wang is 30 years old and lives in a small village in China along with wife, four parents, and his kid. Their household income is about $4k/year from a combination of the small plot farming soy and occasional odd job that pops up hauling bricks etc.
Xiao Wang discovers he can move to Shenzhen and work on a manufacturing line for $6k/year, sending most of it home to help his family. The income the remaining family members generate back at the village won't be impacted much since there isn't that much work so can be handled by wife/parents/kid.
After a year Xiao Wang's family has a new scooter, their home has new windows, the daughter has school supplies, and the parents are enjoying being able to afford more meat in the diet when they cook the family meals.
How is Wang being exploited? He doubled his family income and raised their standard of living by voluntarily taking advantage of the opportunity to work for a much higher wage. He's learning new skills, and while it is hard being away from his family and working long hours he believe it is worth what his family gains, in fact his biggest fear is probably rumors of manufacturing moving to somewhere cheaper like Indonesia.
Great post. Rarely do people realize this perspective. Exploit is the wrong term, more like capitalize.
some people say companies are bringing their manufacturing to other poor countries to exploit the poor people. and other reasons, but what do you think about that ?
Many products can be produced cheaper in other countries than in the US. That means it costs me, the buyer of those products, less. So why wouldn't I be in favor of that?
Blame the unions. They demanded so much they priced themselves out of the market. And I am not sure it is a matter of "exploiting poor people". The fact is, the US was engaged in exploitation through its policy of protectionism. Only by letting US work be exported to other countries have foreign workers started earning decent wages and enjoy a decent standard of living.
Many products can be produced cheaper in other countries than in the US. That means it costs me, the buyer of those products, less. So why wouldn't I be in favor of that?
Blame the unions. They demanded so much they priced themselves out of the market. And I am not sure it is a matter of "exploiting poor people". The fact is, the US was engaged in exploitation through its policy of protectionism. Only by letting US work be exported to other countries have foreign workers started earning decent wages and enjoy a decent standard of living.
Because Xiao Wang is using tooling that dates back to Eisenhower's presidency and poor quality parts leading to crappier products.
Xiao Wang is 30 years old and lives in a small village in China along with wife, four parents, and his kid. Their household income is about $4k/year from a combination of the small plot farming soy and occasional odd job that pops up hauling bricks etc.
Xiao Wang discovers he can move to Shenzhen and work on a manufacturing line for $6k/year, sending most of it home to help his family. The income the remaining family members generate back at the village won't be impacted much since there isn't that much work so can be handled by wife/parents/kid.
After a year Xiao Wang's family has a new scooter, their home has new windows, the daughter has school supplies, and the parents are enjoying being able to afford more meat in the diet when they cook the family meals.
How is Wang being exploited? He doubled his family income and raised their standard of living by voluntarily taking advantage of the opportunity to work for a much higher wage. He's learning new skills, and while it is hard being away from his family and working long hours he believe it is worth what his family gains, in fact his biggest fear is probably rumors of manufacturing moving to somewhere cheaper like Indonesia.
Let us get for real with your story.
Situation A Xiao at is $4K a year job: He would have lived to 75, raised his family till they took care of themselves and actually took care of him for his last 15 years so he could focus on family and retirement.
Instead
Situation B Xiao at is $6K a year Shenzhen job: After ten years of breathing in arsenic, drinking lead and toxic chemicals dumped into the river of his factory Xiao dies at 35 from a rapidly spreading cancer that kills him before he can make it back to his hometown. His children are young and don't remember who he is, they are doomed to a life of poverty and crime because their parent is deceased. They sell the scooter for pennies on the dollar to buy food, and once the money runs out they live as beggars. His former wife moves on to a new husband who lives in the community and does all she can to forget him.
Some people on this forum need to actually learn something about China. The state of the art manufacturing in China would be a major wake up call. Rapid industrialization has given China some serious pollution problems. The clean up is a high priority. BTW, the same has hit every industrial nation especially at the start of industrialization. For over a century London was covered in soot and smog from burning coal. The US has plenty of superfund sites still leftover and in need of clean up.
Many products can be produced cheaper in other countries than in the US. That means it costs me, the buyer of those products, less. So why wouldn't I be in favor of that?
Blame the unions. They demanded so much they priced themselves out of the market. And I am not sure it is a matter of "exploiting poor people". The fact is, the US was engaged in exploitation through its policy of protectionism. Only by letting US work be exported to other countries have foreign workers started earning decent wages and enjoy a decent standard of living.
If you blame the unions for trying to give raises to their workforce (who pay union dues), than you must also blame the US corp for trying to give their shareholders bigger profits (by moving production overseas).
Unions and corporations have their own self interests. It is their job and purpose to serve those self interests.
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