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Good, because there is less pollution in our environment. Industry doesn't have to be dirty, unless you are a bean counter. And business is run by bean counters, not environmentalists. So, a great deal of industry inevitably relocates to countries with the least restrictive regulations concerning pollution.
Bad, for many of the reasons you listed. I would add, deindustrialization is very bad for national security and our military. They need things made here, to insure our supply chain is secure. Our nation desperately needs an industrial policy of some sort, to insure our industrial infrastructure remains intact. That will never happen so long as Wallstreet and the banksters are running the country.
industrialization brings more jobs, it brought people out of poverty and gave us better standards of living
so what is the opposite of industrialized? 3rd world living conditions? no plumbing, no running water, no heat, disease at every corner? all things that cities dealt with before they "industrialized"
hell, without industrialization, most of the people around the world couldn't even feed themselves. the US exports a lot of food because we have technology to make farming more efficient
Funny question, it all depends on what you mean by deindustrialization, and how the state deals with the resulting shift/lack of jobs. And also, what happens to the wealth. If the "industrialists" pack up and move to another country to invest...
A. The unemployment rate in the United States has soared astronomically.
A natural consequence of shifting or reallocating Capital.
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B. Many Americans are now living in poverty.
The federal poverty level is an average of the State poverty levels for the 48 contiguous States.
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C. Many cities in the Rust Belt such as Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Gary, and Allentown have suffered mass urban decay.
Thanks to bad government and stupid voters.
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D. The US has had little or no benefit from the shift to a post-industrial economy.
You've benefited quite handsomely, as evidenced by the fact that you're typing on your computer and using the internet.
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It's now becoming more necessary to attend college.
Good. An educated electorate is a good thing.
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Funny question, it all depends on what you mean by deindustrialization, and how the state deals with the resulting shift/lack of jobs. And also, what happens to the wealth. If the "industrialists" pack up and move to another country to invest...
Neither the federal government, nor States, nor cities have done anything to help create jobs in the 5th Level Economy, which is Research & Development.
You should have entered the 5th Level Economy in the mid-1990s, but you failed to shift any Capital and it wouldn't have mattered anyway, since you didn't have enough STEM graduates.
You still don't have enough STEM graduates and what you do have is of low quality.
Shifting Capital by altering tax laws to encourage start-ups for R&D would go along way to alleviate your economic problems.
It can be good if it's handled right. However, it takes buy-in from the population and a lot of investment from the people back into themselves in the form of education and social services... I mean GOOD education and social services, not the American kinds which are bad.
I always tell people that when they mention northern Europe/Scandinavia as models. I've been to those countries and the difference between them and us is that they are investedas a society in their own well-being and prosperity. They want their system to work.
In the U.S. we complain, Moderator cut: .moan, fight about everything & get mad when one part of the country or region does well and another does less well. We have an adversarial relationship with our own society. That is why we can't have nice things like Sweden or Denmark have.
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Neither the federal government, nor States, nor cities have done anything to help create jobs in the 5th Level Economy, which is Research & Development.
no, we skipped 5th and went straight to 7th level jobs, welfare stay at home and raise lots of kids
That is why we can't have nice things like Sweden or Denmark have.
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Some of us Americans don't want your big, overpriced, overreaching, creepy government run system shoved down our throats. That's what makes America unique and great. Our unyielding sense of independence. If independence is not in your DNA, America is going to always be a miserable place to call home. We expect everyone to forge their own path to "success", and if you do not, we will expect you to try again, and again, until you do succeed.
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Some of us Americans don't want your big, overpriced, overreaching, creepy government run system shoved down our throats. That's what makes America unique and great. Our unyielding sense of independence. If independence is not in your DNA, America is going to always be a miserable place to call home. We expect everyone to forge their own path to "success", and if you do not, we will expect you to try again, and again, until you do succeed.
Those countries are actually friendlier to businesses than the U.S., especially small businesses. Much lower startup costs.
It's a huge advantage to not have to worry about your employee health care.
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It is neither. Economies constantly evolve. People adapt.
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