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Computers crash trying to load simple websites, I wouldn't want to trust my life with one in a car
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There are many new cars that drive with electronic foot pedals and steering wheels. Meaning there is no physical linkage between them and the steering components or throttle. Same is true with many new gear boxes. It's all electronic switches. It's just a matter of time before we have self-driving cars.
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Hell, loo at how many "professional" gamers there are, they sit around and play video games all day and get paid. Look at the travel writers, they roam the world and write on their experiences and get paid. Look at the youtubers making videos of their lives, what shampoo they use and they get paid.
I'm not sure about these examples. When I spend time watching a youtuber, it's time not spent watching tv or playing video games. The youtuber or blogger is going to have a much smaller team than a TV or game production, so in aggregate, one wonders what the net impact is. You can add tech companies like YouTube in the equation, but I have my doubts YouTube + youtubers (the ones that make money) is greater than the TV studios and other media that are almost surely displaced.
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It isn't the deer at the side of the road that are a danger, but rather the ones bolting full speed out of the woods. Usually you don't see them until it's way too late. Where I live if you slowed down for deer at the side of the road, you'd never get anywhere.
And a decent vision system should be able to detect objects that are on a potential collision course much better than humans.
It think it is funny all the people who think this won't happen. When the tech gets a little more sophisticated, it will far exceed human ability. The same goes for a lot of jobs and potential jobs. Humans will increasingly have a narrow niche where they have a competitive advantage over machines; at least one that is worth a decent wage. The only rational discussion should be how far it will go and how fast it will happen.
Mostly agree, though I assumed the deer bolting out scenario was actually a simpler scenario: there's not much to do other than detect motion, collision course, and react. That can handled without object recognition maybe the LIDAR mentioned previously is good for this case.
I still feel that driving depends on switching between A-to-B mode and defensive driving mode, and vision/object recognition is needed to balance those modes competitively.
On your last paragraph, I concur, and I think people fail to understand advanced tech because things just don't seem complicated when they "just work". Even if something fails, the person often just sees the one fail point, and not the millions of other places where something could have gone wrong.
The problem with thinking more jobs are going to be created is that all the ones created are just going to be jobs that robots can do? If robots can work for nothing why would you create a job and have to pay a human?
The problem with thinking more jobs are going to be created is that all the ones created are just going to be jobs that robots can do? If robots can work for nothing why would you create a job and have to pay a human?
Well, I do have to disagree somewhat since I worked over 45 years as a frontline HC provider..People in crisis need human contact..not some robot to come to bedside and stupid data results. Human contact is a MUST!! No computer can sooth fear/pain or give support..So better rethink just HOW much computerized jobs and CARE any computerized world could accomplish.
Then I have to assume it takes human's to come up with those programs and apps and codes that enable those computer driven jobs to even get anything done.. Computers are unable to problem solve when things go wrong..Talking to my son who is IT person in top Logistical Company..Tells me ..He is on call 24/7 when THINGS go wrong..He figures it..and YEP Computer Glitches combined with human error was the problem..Solving it takes the human ..not a program that has narrow data's..So Even Computer's can cause issues..They can't prevent bad entries..then just shut down..How's that helpful in a Logistical business??
It's pessimistic to assume robotic's will control everything..THATS just Big Brother Conspiracy theories..being recycled..I heard the same thing over quarter Century+ ago...I still don't drink THAT Kool Aide! LOL
Well, I do have to disagree somewhat since I worked over 45 years as a frontline HC provider..People in crisis need human contact..not some robot to come to bedside and stupid data results. Human contact is a MUST!! No computer can sooth fear/pain or give support..So better rethink just HOW much computerized jobs and CARE any computerized world could accomplish.
Then I have to assume it takes human's to come up with those programs and apps and codes that enable those computer driven jobs to even get anything done.. Computers are unable to problem solve when things go wrong..Talking to my son who is IT person in top Logistical Company..Tells me ..He is on call 24/7 when THINGS go wrong..He figures it..and YEP Computer Glitches combined with human error was the problem..Solving it takes the human ..not a program that has narrow data's..So Even Computer's can cause issues..They can't prevent bad entries..then just shut down..How's that helpful in a Logistical business??
It's pessimistic to assume robotic's will control everything..THATS just Big Brother Conspiracy theories..being recycled..I heard the same thing over quarter Century+ ago...I still don't drink THAT Kool Aide! LOL
Why would a robot need to comfort and support that is what friends and family are for? It is not like we will never seen another human again. I am sure in hospitals the future we will create either more human like computers or computers that have a screen where humans can video chat like Skype. Computers are going be so good they do not need a human to tell them what to do or solve problems for them. No not all jobs will be automated computers may need people to fix them until they or another computer can fix themselves but you need a lot less people to do that.
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Where does society end up going twenty years or so down the line when many medical, legal, technical, and financial jobs can now be more reliably done by a machine that doesn't need a salary, time off, or medical benefits? Basic income? Civil unrest? Make work programs like the CCC? Something more sinister with the surplus population?
OP. I'd say...in bad trouble. For many of us we are already there. Use your head. Higher and higher rents, more and more people and fewer and fewer jobs. Something has to give.
For well connected others, they are racking in millions upon millions. Just depends where you fit in. For me, I'd be homeless if lived in any of the big, unaffordable cities. I can just squeak by in the Rustbelt...just.
I was born in L.A., lived there for 3+ decades, but couldn't afford living there any longer...that was in '89. I used to rent a one room office downtown L.A. in the mid '1980's for $65 or $75 a month. Room had a sink you could pee in, but nothing else. Cooked on a hotplate and had a mini fridge. Had to use the toilet down the hall. I showered at a local school gym I snuck into. I have no idea how they pay some of these crazy rents nowadays.
Used to be the artists' loft was the way for thrifty bohemians. Then lofts became faddish and now they cost more to rent than apartments.
Computers crash trying to load simple websites, I wouldn't want to trust my life with one in a car
That's because OSes and software try to accommodate and interface with an infinite variety of hardware and software. That isn't how auto AI control systems work at all.
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