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This thread has ended up a classic example of reductio ad absurdum focusing on people who earn $7.25 an hour and ignoring the subject of the thread - that you need to make 2.5 times minimum wage to rent an apartment; in most parts of the US that is $18-25 an hour. That's as much as an experienced bookkeeper, a dental assistant or a roofer are paid. And yes of course they can rent a room, unless they happen to be married and have children, and if they do they need gma to live close by or be able to cough up $1,000-$1,500 a month for childcare.
And of course they should have been brilliant like all the CD posters and not have had children until they made their first million but once you have a kid, it's real hard to undo, it's not like returning a sweater that you decided you can't afford.
I would love to have a rational discussion about what happens to the people I described here...what's the solution? Clearly they can't all move to rural Missouri so that they can rent an apartment for $600 there are few jobs there anyway. Should the government subsidize housing for working families? Should builders be required to provide a number of units set aside for lower income working families? Should HUD provide vouchers for other than the very poor?
Or we can keep sharing rags to riches stories and wagging our collective finger at people who work for minimum wage /sigh
The solution is very simple - multiple roommates. It’s ridiculous to expect that someone should be able to live on their own while earning minimum wage.
The solution is very simple - multiple roommates. It’s ridiculous to expect that someone should be able to live on their own while earning minimum wage.
why is it ridiculous? we all should beable to afford to live on our own without living under a bridge or having muliti people in one house. Were not pack rats or roaches.
why is it ridiculous? we all should beable to afford to live on our own without living under a bridge or having muliti people in one house. Were not pack rats or roaches.
It's never been that way before (at least not when I was young), why do you think you should be different?
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Minimum wage jobs are made for folks who want a part-time job or students. If one can't upgrade from that, well, it is what it is. and you don't have to make 45-50k to rent something. Ridiculous drivel.
If you can't upgrade from a minimum wage part time job, then too bad. You are a result of your life choices.
What did I say that elicited that response from you? My point is that the article was NOT about people earning minimum wage, but rather people who earn twice or two and one half times the minimum wage and after I post that you jump in and lecture me about minimum wage jobs
The solution is very simple - multiple roommates. It’s ridiculous to expect that someone should be able to live on their own while earning minimum wage.
My post was about people earning twice or 2.5 times the minimum wage and this is the second response I've gotten that completely ignores that and instead is educating me about what someone earning the minimum wage should be entitled to?
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why is it ridiculous? we all should beable to afford to live on our own without living under a bridge or having muliti people in one house. Were not pack rats or roaches.
People have a choice. There are lots of people making more money than you that need roommates. It just depends on where they live.
Minimum wage equals minimum lifestyle. You can live on minimum wage and not be under a bridge and still be comfortable.
You are asking for a middle class lifestyle that is the result of a higher income to be given to someone who is being paid minimum wages.
My post was about people earning twice or 2.5 times the minimum wage and this is the second response I've gotten that completely ignores that and instead is educating me about what someone earning the minimum wage should be entitled to?
You would be entitled to anything you can buy for that wage.
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This thread has ended up a classic example of reductio ad absurdum focusing on people who earn $7.25 an hour and ignoring the subject of the thread - that you need to make 2.5 times minimum wage to rent an apartment; in most parts of the US that is $18-25 an hour. That's as much as an experienced bookkeeper, a dental assistant or a roofer are paid. And yes of course they can rent a room, unless they happen to be married and have children, and if they do they need gma to live close by or be able to cough up $1,000-$1,500 a month for childcare.
And of course they should have been brilliant like all the CD posters and not have had children until they made their first million but once you have a kid, it's real hard to undo, it's not like returning a sweater that you decided you can't afford.
I would love to have a rational discussion about what happens to the people I described here...what's the solution? Clearly they can't all move to rural Missouri so that they can rent an apartment for $600 there are few jobs there anyway. Should the government subsidize housing for working families? Should builders be required to provide a number of units set aside for lower income working families? Should HUD provide vouchers for other than the very poor?
Or we can keep sharing rags to riches stories and wagging our collective finger at people who work for minimum wage /sigh
Well since we are all so dense and you see the issue more clearly, what is the solution. Most of us have said accept a lower standard of living that is still quite livable or improve yourself to earn more. That's our opinion and we're sticking to it, so it's up to you to come up with a solution that appeals to you more.
In Seattle they raised minimum wage quite a bit. Instead of enabling workers to get off government assistance and improve their lives, employers found that the workers instead wanted their hours cut because now they made too much money and were losing the freebies. That didn't work out so well.
People have a choice. There are lots of people making more money than you that need roommates. It just depends on where they live.
Minimum wage equals minimum lifestyle. You can live on minimum wage and not be under a bridge and still be comfortable.
You are asking for a middle class lifestyle that is the result of a higher income to be given to someone who is being paid minimum wages.
Yea their is alot of people making more then me and STILL have to live with roommates. Know why, COL/Greedy LL/ Low pay in high COL.. pick your poison. Should be here is 40 hours, and here is a house without a leaky roof. But we know houses aint cheap because of local laws, labor, and profit to be had with the banks. But a simple 500sq one bed room home can be built and can be something for a single min wage person that doesnt cost them 100k.. why are we not building them?
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