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Old 06-17-2021, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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Down 68k jobs last month with an 8.2% unemployment rate compared to up 559k with a 5.8% rate in the US.
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Old 06-17-2021, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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To be fair Canada was slower on vaccinations; they did not pre-order enough doses the way the U.S. did. They are now ahead of us on vaccinations and are starting the re-opening conversation.
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Old 06-17-2021, 06:50 PM
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Location: California
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In a month they will be re-open and pandemic free due to high vaxx rates. They pay decent unemployment comp to those who had to do without working.
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Old 06-17-2021, 06:53 PM
 
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In a month they will be re-open and pandemic free due to high vaxx rates. They pay decent unemployment comp to those who had to do without working.
They had to wait much longer to get vaxxed because they have no biotech industry. Still just 10% of their population is fully vaxxed vs 45% here. Additionally, no evidence there or here that lockdowns slowed the spread.
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Old 06-17-2021, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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They had to wait much longer to get vaxxed because they have no biotech industry. Still just 10% of their population is fully vaxxed vs 45% here. Additionally, no evidence there or here that lockdowns slowed the spread.
Lockdowns were never about stopping the virus. They were about managing health care resources. How do people STILL not understand this???

If the hospitals in an area become full with covid patients, there are not beds left for people sick with anything else, they will have to be transferred elsewhere or turned away. Then you have more overall deaths, from both he pandemic and other things.
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Old 06-18-2021, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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To be fair Canada was slower on vaccinations; they did not pre-order enough doses the way the U.S. did. They are now ahead of us on vaccinations and are starting the re-opening conversation.
Actually Canada did pre-order more than enough vaccines for all of Canada and more.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/canada-h...here-1.1533041

What happened was production was slowed as some, I think Pfizer, slowed European production to expand, and the US policy of America First, commandeered vaccines headed for Canada because Pfizer is an American company.

If you remember, Trump actually turned down vaccines for the US at that time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/p...accine-us.html

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Old 06-18-2021, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/cana...tcan-1.5455914

Down 68k jobs last month with an 8.2% unemployment rate compared to up 559k with a 5.8% rate in the US.
Jobs will pick up, no doubt.

Canadians understood the choice between life and money. That is why we have had 3 times less deaths per million than you guys. We acted swiftly and decisively to mitigate the virus as much as possible.

Plus, as pointed out, the financial relief offered Canadians was much, much more than what was offered in the US.

Canada is a very wealthy country, we will be fine.

Thanks for your concern, but it's not needed.
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Old 06-19-2021, 09:52 AM
 
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Canadians understood the choice between life and money. That is why we have had 3 times less deaths per million than you guys. We acted swiftly and decisively to mitigate the virus as much as possible.

Canada is a very wealthy country, we will be fine.
Deaths are the same as they are in US border states. Our rates were pushed up deaths in NYC and surrounding areas last Spring and essential workers in high density housing. Lockdowns here and in your country were political theater. Canada also has 1/3 lower GDP per capita than the US, it's not wealthy. Poor British Columbia has a GDP per capita of $50k US vs. $80k US in neighboring Washington state. You don't have the resources we do, so we generously are sending vaccines your way because no one in Canada makes them.
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Old 06-19-2021, 11:11 AM
 
Location: In a perfect world winter does not exist
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I see a Canada that for years after the border is open testing anyone that enters the country with covid tests. The lines will be massive and tourism will suffer greatly. If you have a Nexus card it means nothing, you will have to stand in line to get a test.

However going into this USA for Canadians will be just like in the past. There is no way USA is going to test Canadians for covid. We are not a regime down here and have freedoms.
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Old 06-20-2021, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I see a Canada that for years after the border is open testing anyone that enters the country with covid tests. The lines will be massive and tourism will suffer greatly. If you have a Nexus card it means nothing, you will have to stand in line to get a test.

However going into this USA for Canadians will be just like in the past. There is no way USA is going to test Canadians for covid. We are not a regime down here and have freedoms.
I doubt it.

Proof of vaccination will be needed, but then that will be the standard for most countries, including the US.

Right now the US does test people arriving for Covid, including Americans. So are you saying that since they do, the US is currently a regime and you have lost your freedoms?
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