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it's been horrific the last 17 or so years now. Not just here but bad in other countries too. Been tiring. Hasn't been well since late 90s with 9/11 changing it all. Early to mid 00s was a limbo period. imo
Are you copy and pasting this or do you actually believe this point is an issue? If you believe it’s an issue why? What is the rationale to bring this point up?
I brought that up and have in the past because the relative underperformance of the cadre is partially missed in U3 and LFPR. One can be accounted for on the positive side of both U3 and LFPR and be an under-performer partial opt-out. .
I brought that up and have in the past because the relative underperformance of the cadre is partially missed in U3 and LFPR. One can be accounted for on the positive side of both U3 and LFPR and be an under-performer partial opt-out. .
Seems like you might have missed the angle of my questioning that bolded part of your post. Why would you bring up an increase is self reporting of mental illness? Is the self reporting an issue? Are we to assume mental illness was generally lower with prior generations? Or that it simply was under addressed/not addressed?
Seems like you might have missed the angle of my questioning that bolded part of your post. Why would you bring up an increase is self reporting of mental illness? Is the self reporting an issue? Are we to assume mental illness was generally lower with prior generations? Or that it simply was under addressed/not addressed?
But was mental illness lower? And again what was your point of bringing up self reported mental illness? You haven’t directly answered the question
1. Yes
2. The notion goes to more millennials and Zoomers being out of touch, needing more help etc. More mental illness almost certainly contributes to the well understood scholastic and work underperformance mills and Zoomers experience.
3. I'm under no obligation to answer your question(s) in ways you'd like me to answer.
How would you know this or be able to substantiate it?
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2. The notion goes to more millennials and Zoomers being out of touch, needing more help etc. More mental illness almost certainly contributes to the well understood scholastic and work underperformance mills and Zoomers experience.
Being out of touch because they self report mental illness more than prior generations? That’s your take?
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3. I'm under no obligation to answer your question(s) in ways you'd like me to answer.
You are right you are under zero obligation but it’s a bit comical to sidestep answering basic questions about a topic you brought up
How would you know this or be able to substantiate it?
Being out of touch because they self report mental illness more than prior generations? That’s your take?
You are right you are under zero obligation but it’s a bit comical to sidestep answering basic questions about a topic you brought up
I'm not sidestepping anything. I made a claim that you flat out know, or should, is correct and used in a supportive context.
I have provided and can provide many links to good sources buttressing my points.
If you can provide real evidence that said group suffers less or equal mental illness metrics relative to past generations post it, please. If not reconsider your position.
I'm not sidestepping anything. I made a claim that you flat out know, or should, is correct and used in a supportive context.
You’ve made many claims so I’m not sure which in particular you are speaking of but I know there is zero way you know what the mental illness rate in the country was last year, a decade or 3 ago
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I have provided and can provide many links to good sources buttressing my points. All you can do, it appears anyway, is ask narrow questions in order to clutter reasonable discussions.
I’m just aware you couldn’t possibly know what the mental illness rate is or was. There’s no reasonable way to know this, especially historically speaking
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If you can provide real evidence that said group suffers less or equal mental illness metrics relative to past generations post it, please. If not reconsider your position.
I didn’t make any claims therefore you asking me for evidence is a logical fallacy. I initially questioned why you brought up self reporting and you go down tangents that you couldn’t possibly have accurate data because without self reporting and access to care historical figures would be lacking at best.
So again why did you bring up self reporting instead of mental illness in general ?
You’ve made many claims so I’m not sure which in particular you are speaking of but I know there is zero way you know what the mental illness rate in the country was last year, a decade or 3 ago
I’m just aware you couldn’t possibly know what the mental illness rate is or was. There’s no reasonable way to know this, especially historically speaking
I didn’t make any claims therefore you asking me for evidence is a logical fallacy. I initially questioned why you brought up self reporting and you go down tangents that you couldn’t possibly have accurate data because without self reporting and access to care historical figures would be lacking at best.
So again why did you bring up self reporting instead of mental illness in general ?
I'm going off of what professionals in the field and broad statistical surveys indicate. It's not me guessing.
To the contrary. Your questions clearly indicate you don't agree with me. So asking for supporting evidence per your position is reasonable and in logical order.
To repeat...I brought the point up to help explain in part why U3 plus LFPR don't fully explain weak points in the US job picture. The link I posted above highlights my points.
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