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Do you think from 9 am to 4 pm school hours really efficient for the students ? How many lessons a day should schools have ?
I wonder how is that going on in U.S, Germany, UK, Australia, France, Canada.. And which one is really has better education ? Finland seems pretty good.
Personally I think the amount should change with grade. I'd like to see high school, or at least junior/senior be more college like ( such as MWF or TTh) and only for the class hours. Rather than being locked inside for 7 hours a day 5 days a week.
Personally I think the amount should change with grade. I'd like to see high school, or at least junior/senior be more college like ( such as MWF or TTh) and only for the class hours. Rather than being locked inside for 7 hours a day 5 days a week.
Not sure how it is where you are. MWF or TTh? How will they get their classes in? Our district high school operates on a 4 days rotating schedule. Six 57 minutes class time a day and a community lunch and learn.
It's not the hours spent in the class, it's the quality of the time. If you kid is just told to stare at the wall when they are done with their assignment / test and has to wait for everybody else in class, it's not going to be effective. If you kids is spending a lot of time just going through the motions pretending to be busy (like is common in Asia), it's not going to be effective. The educators here (at least in America) don't care about promoting achievement, they care about the slowest kid in the class and it's obvious that's who the teacher is focusing on.
I went to a fancy prep school in the 70's that had 6-day cycles, 5 days a week. It's hard to explain but not that hard to experience. A little different from MWF/TTh but similar concept in that you don't have the same classes every day.
My kids went to school from 8AM to 2:15PM. Seems about right for middle class kids who know how to get their homework done and want to play sports. I suppose poor, single-parent kids could be kept in school longer each day so someone can keep them on task, and they can get some food and shelter until Mom's shift is over or Grandma picks them up.
Do you think from 9 am to 4 pm school hours really efficient for the students ? How many lessons a day should schools have ?
I wonder how is that going on in U.S, Germany, UK, Australia, France, Canada.. And which one is really has better education ? Finland seems pretty good.
I haven't found kind of survey about that.
In Canada, we do a range of around 8:20-2:50 to 8:50-3:15. I've never heard of later than 3:30.
You really can't compare places like Finland and the USA. I'm sure it's been hashed to death, but the wide range of socioeconomic factors in the USA will greatly impact things.
[quote=compSciGuy;46367490]It's not the hours spent in the class, it's the quality of the time. If you kid is just told to stare at the wall when they are done with their assignment / test and has to wait for everybody else in class, it's not going to be effective. If you kids is spending a lot of time just going through the motions pretending to be busy (like is common in Asia), it's not going to be effective. The educators here (at least in America) don't care about promoting achievement, they care about the slowest kid in the class and it's obvious that's who the teacher is focusing on.[/QUOTE]
It's way more complicated than that. I'm guessing you are not a teacher otherwise you would be aware of legal requirements to adhere to multiple IEPs/504s.
Do you think from 9 am to 4 pm school hours really efficient for the students ? How many lessons a day should schools have ?
I wonder how is that going on in U.S, Germany, UK, Australia, France, Canada.. And which one is really has better education ? Finland seems pretty good.
I haven't found kind of survey about that.
I think we can't compare ourselves to the rest of the world because we coddle our kids, and refuse to hold them accountable or push them out of the comfort zones out of fear we'll hurt their egos. Unfortunately, we need both long days and a long year because we don't hold our students accountable for actually knowing what they were taught before. We REVIEW, REVIEW, REVIEW ad-nausium....and in so doing we teach our kids that they are not expected to retain what they learn. If I'm expected to reteach prerequisite material every time we need to use it I need TIME.
You cannot shorted either our school day or year without first changing attitudes and I don't see that happening any time soon.
It's not the hours spent in the class, it's the quality of the time. If you kid is just told to stare at the wall when they are done with their assignment / test and has to wait for everybody else in class, it's not going to be effective. If you kids is spending a lot of time just going through the motions pretending to be busy (like is common in Asia), it's not going to be effective. The educators here (at least in America) don't care about promoting achievement, they care about the slowest kid in the class and it's obvious that's who the teacher is focusing on.[/QUOTE]
It's way more complicated than that. I'm guessing you are not a teacher otherwise you would be aware of legal requirements to adhere to multiple IEPs/504s.
Yup. I would love to really challenge my classes but I would be drawn and quartered before I was fired. Laws and the way they measure school performance are forcing us to focus on the bottom of the class. Nobody complains if you don't meet the needs of the top of the class. They SCREAM if you don't cater to the bottom. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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Yup. I would love to really challenge my classes but I would be drawn and quartered before I was fired. Laws and the way they measure school performance are forcing us to focus on the bottom of the class. Nobody complains if you don't meet the needs of the top of the class. They SCREAM if you don't cater to the bottom. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
