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Old 03-21-2021, 06:21 PM
 
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"Quest Of A Hemisphere", IF you can find it.
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Old 03-22-2021, 08:04 AM
 
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Old 03-22-2021, 03:11 PM
 
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"Quest Of A Hemisphere", IF you can find it.
You can download it in PDF at Robert Welch University - It is 32 chapeters and the download is free.
https://robertwelchuniversity.org/quest_hemisphere.php

Amazon has it for $30.00
https://www.amazon.com/Quest-Hemisph.../dp/0882792180

This book is outdated and only goes through JFK's assassination and some Asian wars. It is heavily slanted toward US *goodness.*
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Old 03-23-2021, 12:02 AM
 
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This book is outdated and only goes through JFK's assassination and some Asian wars. It is heavily slanted toward US *goodness.*
Is that a bad thing when you look at the alternatives?
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Old 03-23-2021, 07:05 PM
 
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Is that a bad thing when you look at the alternatives?
Yes, it is a bad thing because it is not true that the US was always good in its interactions with the rest of the world. You need both the good and the bad, imo.
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Old 03-23-2021, 07:25 PM
 
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Is that a bad thing when you look at the alternatives?
Just a guess as to what that's all about. A good number of Americans believe we would have stayed out of the proxy wars....obviously then allowing The USSR and communist friends to take over the world, these people always seem to leave out the last part.
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Old 03-23-2021, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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Just a guess as to what that's all about. A good number of Americans believe we would have stayed out of the proxy wars....obviously then allowing The USSR and communist friends to take over the world, these people always seem to leave out the last part.
The USSR was never powerful enough for that. Not even close.

All we have to do is look at the interventions the USSR tried where the U.S. had less involvement. Angola and Guinea-Bissau come to mind as examples. Afghanistan would be the most famous example of the USSR's very own precious quagmire they did not want to let go of.

Not to mention the PR debacles they suffered from repression in Hungary & Czechoslovakia, which hurt the reputation of the USSR not only among the capitalist world, but more consequentially, among their sympathizers. The damage they did in the 1960s among people who might otherwise have sympathized with their socio-political goals was arguably a turning point in the Cold War.

Hell, North Vietnam got what they wanted out of the Vietnam conflict, and look how that has turned out.
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Old 03-23-2021, 08:21 PM
 
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The USSR was never powerful enough for that. Not even close.

All we have to do is look at the interventions the USSR tried where the U.S. had less involvement. Angola and Guinea-Bissau come to mind as examples. Afghanistan would be the most famous example of the USSR's very own precious quagmire they did not want to let go of.

Not to mention the PR debacles they suffered from repression in Hungary & Czechoslovakia, which hurt the reputation of the USSR not only among the capitalist world, but more consequentially, among their sympathizers. The damage they did in the 1960s among people who might otherwise have sympathized with their socio-political goals was arguably a turning point in the Cold War.

Hell, North Vietnam got what they wanted out of the Vietnam conflict, and look how that has turned out.
Wow. I literally laughed out loud reading your two step above.



I guess you forgot about Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua?

I'm not much of a wiki fan but this paints a much more clear pic of Soviet reach than your whitewash above.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Empire


More wiki....scroll down to the cold war proxy wars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proxy_wars
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Old 03-23-2021, 08:30 PM
 
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Wow. I literally laughed out loud reading your two step above.



I guess you forgot about Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua?

I'm not much of a wiki fan but this paints a much more clear pic of Soviet reach than your whitewash above.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Empire


More wiki....scroll down to the cold war proxy wars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proxy_wars
Those 3 were home-grown communist revolutions / civil wars.

I specified Soviet foreign interventions where they sent troops or "advisors."

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Old 03-23-2021, 08:48 PM
 
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Those 3 were home-grown communist revolutions / civil wars.

I specified Soviet foreign interventions where they sent troops or "advisors."
.....and beside the point in each case.
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