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The fact that Obama's religion is still apparently up in the air is probably a good indication. It obviously shows that it's not influencing his politics.
Religion lost its usefulness after his election in 2009, he may use it again if he thinks it will help his chances for reelection.
Nonsense, it is he media who is making their religion a central issue. Reminds me of Kennedy.
Right, because Rick Perry holding a Christian only prayer event, with speakers from an ultra conservative theocratic organization bent on taking over America means he's not using the religion platform as part of his campaign? Bachmann signing a marriage vow in order to promote a federal amendment banning gay marriage and also supporting reinstating DADT because of her beliefs isn't pandering to the religious nutcases in this country?
Politicians bring up religion in their speeches and policy making decisions for two reasons, either they are pandering for votes, or their religion so consumes their every waking hour that they cannot help but insert references to it all the time.
I would say Perry is the former, and Bachmann is the latter. Both positions are pretty terrifying though.
Religion lost its usefulness after his election in 2009...
A step in the right direction. Religion was never meant to be a useful tool in US government.
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That's kinda weird logic. Since we know about Rev. Wright does that mean Obama made religion a central part of his campaign?
Please point out anything to lead you to belive they are making religion central to their campaigns.
That these candidates are making religion a central piece of their campaign is not "logic", it is a fact. Logic would be debating the same issue applied to Ron Paul. Anything can be weird if you don't understand it, or take things for what they aren't.
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Good, the NYT can finally come clean about Obama being a Muslim.
Don't forget, "beer drinking" Muslim with a taste for real expensive pig meat... wait... that sounds like a Jew!
which has raised concerns about their respect for the separation of church and state, not to mention the separation of fact and fiction.
Hmmm.....speaking of 'fact and fiction?''
where is your 'curiousity' about the facts and TRUTH?
The so-called ''Separation of church and state'' is a Myth, a false teaching...and a deceitful lie.
''Separation of church and state'' is not....and NEVER has been in the constitution of the U. S. A. The wicked liberals (Godless 'left') began promoting that LIE in the early 1950's...around the time of the Joe McCarthy hearings.
The separation of church and state is a complete distortion ....and never meant to be interpreted as part of the constitution.
''The phrase "separation of church and state" itself does not appear in the United States Constitution. The First Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Prior to 1947, however separation of church and state was not considered part of the constitution''
I find it interesting that Mr Keller is just now interested in the "many" candidates who are expressing their religion in the course of the campaign. That he had no interest in a Presidential candidates' longtime outrageous Pastor four or so years ago.
Most folks are initially attracted, and stay at a particular church, syngogue, or mosque due to the Pastor, Rabbi, or Imam. Most "regular religious service" attending people also get a large part of their worldview from their religion, over the course of years, particularly as taught by their religious leader(s).
The coincidence of the timing of this article and the general media drumbeat about "concern" over a candidates' religion is just too great. It is pretty clear that the article is an interest of convenience, and ideologically based.
I find it interesting that Mr Keller is just now interested in the "many" candidates who are expressing their religion in the course of the campaign. That he had no interest in a Presidential candidates' longtime outrageous Pastor four or so years ago.
IF the candidate makes it an issue then they should be open to all rational comments. If the candidate does not then we should leave it alone.
I do know I would never support a candidate that says they would use their religious beliefs to govern their actions while in office, for the very simple reason that they are admitting openly that they would violate the Constitution they swore to uphold. For some of you that would be happy if someone were to be elected and force the Nation to becomes good believers, keep in mind that their beliefs may not be Your beliefs, I know your tune would be very different then. The proof is how loudly some cried like little girls that President Obama was a Muslim and a lover of terrorists for that reason, even after many others have already proven that the story was a right-wing LIE.
Casper
We do;I know of no candidate who hides his religion. What they suggest is typical anti-christian view of codemming by association.But odf course the NYT is liberal and more inclined to be Ati-anything that suports more conservative views.If thsi were right then all candidates would qauetioened o all democratic and conservatine crimes.a waste of time and unjeust to say the least.
And Perry and Bachmann are far more racist than Obama, Clinton, and Reagan.
Reagan a racist: thank you for letting us know something most would debate, the same for Obama and how do you know he isn't a racist? (Obama that is)
NIta
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