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Old 09-05-2011, 08:53 AM
 
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A robotic, canned, rhetorical response. You gave absolutely no specific plan or pathway to achieve or obtain your lofty goals. This is very much how the Republican representatives have programmed you to think, feel and respond. Platitudes mean nothing without concrete ideas to back them up!

Thus far, the right wing has done nothing to improve this country since the destruction that Bush left behind.
This is funny....So tell us, what is the dems way? Have they laid out a plan, they have shown the repubs they are not even willing to lay out a budget for the last 800+ days....

So, instead of the leftist "we have a plan, but we are not going to tell you everything" not yet anyway....

How about something on paper, that everyone can read AND understand before passing....
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:58 AM
 
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I have very low expectations if the Republicans take back government in 2012, actually. Call me cynical if you want, but I think if we don't elect Ron Paul, we're just gonna get more of the same. The Republicans are so similar to the Democrats that instead of Hope and Change, the Republicans will offer us Change and Hope
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Old 09-05-2011, 09:17 AM
 
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We will be winning the 2012 election. Our purpose is to restore fiscal responsibility, reduce the national debt, and return to the foundations of this great country; i.e., the Constitution. Since obummer took office, we have seen our national debt rise to over $14 trillion and gas prices have skyrocketed in some areas to $4.00 a gallon. He has destroyed the image of the presidency by his constant bowing and apologizing for America.

Socialism does not work...Putin told obummer this. Obummer is a socialist, muslim, hell bent on destroying America and pushing it into the worse depression since the 1930s.

We will try to maintain social programs but remember, the government is not here to support those who are unwilling to pull their weight. A great country requires all of it's citizens to work hard to maintain that greatness. We need to drill here to reduce our dependency on foreign oil...this would be one of the best ways to create jobs in this country.

So, Bluesjuke...does that answer your question? You obviously are young, naive, and have listened to the socialist rhetoric of your academic faculty...wake up and smell the coffee. America is currently suffering severely and conservatives and other moderate dems will be taking it back in 2012. We've had enough of obummer.

Wrong on all counts high lighted in red but I do believe it's because you may have confused me with another poster perhaps?

I had no question and agree with all you've posted here.
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Old 09-05-2011, 09:26 AM
 
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I have very low expectations if the Republicans take back government in 2012, actually. Call me cynical if you want, but I think if we don't elect Ron Paul, we're just gonna get more of the same. The Republicans are so similar to the Democrats that instead of Hope and Change, the Republicans will offer us Change and Hope
You make an interesting point. I think the problem with so many people, including myself, is that we have these unreasonably high expectations that somehow, a new president (regardless of party) will magically change everything in a short period of time. I think based on history, we should lower our expectations of what any president can do whether he serves one or two terms. Plus, another problem we have is expecting the president to take on multiple projects or issues at once. We need to give them time to make the best decision that they can.
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Old 09-05-2011, 09:26 AM
 
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This is funny....So tell us, what is the dems way? Have they laid out a plan, they have shown the repubs they are not even willing to lay out a budget for the last 800+ days....

So, instead of the leftist "we have a plan, but we are not going to tell you everything" not yet anyway....

How about something on paper, that everyone can read AND understand before passing....
To make it simple, an agenda such as a real Progressive represents is what I would stand by support and vote for. An agenda that focuses on actually helping the average middle class Ameican other than waging a war on them.

Dennis Kucinich is the POTUS we needed after eight long horriffic and destructive years of Bush...

Dennis Kucinich Stands by His Liberal Agenda and Calls on Barack Obama for Change - PR.com

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index....says_bush.html

Another rep that is a true Statesman and speaks with ideas and facts as opposes to BS rhetoric.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6pa-QdL4Wo
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Old 09-05-2011, 09:48 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Funny how whenever you ask current "conservatives" what they "want", they'll usually just rant all day about "Obummer" and "socialism" and "libruls" and the "constitution", etc.... but somehow it always comes down to the fact that they have no ideas and they really don't know what they want?!

Or as GOP Senator Lindsey Graham challenged a Tea Party meeting last year: "What do you want to do? You take back your country
— and do what with it?".... Everybody went from being kind of hostile to just dead silent."

In fact the current list of GOP "Jerry Springer" candidates is as clear an indication as any of just how confused and chaotic the party is right now.
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Old 09-05-2011, 10:20 AM
 
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)



No righties, no lefties, no lies, no promises, WE need a man/or women who will stand up for The People. And clean house of the undesirables now, I'd even take a day off work and volunteer to stick my foot up their a**** on the way out.


It's time WE take this country back!! Right or Left is not the solution, your wasting your time...It's time to drive out the parasites all at the same time!!
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Old 09-05-2011, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Look lol I think Obama has done enough favors to Wall St and big business to where he will be handed the 2012 election by default because none of your media-candidates can win.

But If you guys win could you list all the wonderful things your candidate will proceed with.
I was thinking:
Close down the EPA ---Pollution is a myth.
Cut Military retirement benefits.
Destroy the unions to benefit the Oligarchs
Roll back healthcare reform because things were so much better before hand.
DOuble the troops in Afghanistan.
DOuble troops in Iraq.
Open up all oil producing areas to Transnational Oil companies.
Make it even easier to outsource jobs to China
Repeal the minimum wage
Abolish the Department of education
Abolish the USDA and the FDA---let the market sort it out lol
Find someone new to invade
Abolish welfare cause we know nothing but those filthy minorities are on it.
Abolish unemployment insurance
Abolish social security----ahem I mean turn it over to Wall St who has our best interest at heart.


I throw together that small list cause I listen to you people talk and I get downright frightened by what you people so called want. I say so called because I think this push to the right is just momentum gained because Obama is half a negro. Ultimately in your heart of hearts you know most of the banter being thrown around on your side is detrimental to the country and the safety and prosperity of the American people.


Most repubs are not Oligarch's and self-made businessmen, Just ignorant hicks who have fell for the "Southern Stategy" a bunch of Dummies willing to cut their noses off to spite their faces.

In the face of reality they still belive in "Supply side economics" because they dont know any better.

The best republican candidate for 2012 is Hussein Obama. THere is no true democratic candidate in 2012 and thats a fact.

So please any input into what YOU THINK YOUR SIDE WILL ACCOMPLISH would be interesting reading to me. Thank you in Advance
Undo the messes that the Lefties have left on the bathroom floor.
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Old 09-05-2011, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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I guess I have the same expectations if the lefties win.

Until we get a libertarian, either side will be glad to spend the country into oblivion.
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Old 09-05-2011, 10:52 AM
 
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Your type of response is the very reason a poster felt the need to start this thread.

Address the posters questions or move on to a bash Obama or radical right wing love fest thread.
No 1, who died and made you king?

2nd, why don't you follow your own advice? Your response has NOTHING to do with the OP's question.
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