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Old 07-08-2011, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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I'm a little surprised that this man has not received more press in the discussions on the GOP candidates for 2012. Cain is an accomplished businessman, is driven by sound ethical principles, can energize the conservative base, and may even help capture black votes. He is a Washington outsider, and while that calls into questions his experience, I believe an outsider is a better alternative than a career politician. I think people are sick of Republicans and Democrats alike. It doesn't matter which party they come from, the longer they sit in Washington, the worse they become. A newcomer to Washington would likely be a breathe of fresh air. Besides, he'll have a cabinet if he's elected, so it's not as if the experience thing is a complete handicapper.

Oh, and he is Tea Party endorsed due to his prowess in business, in particular, resurrecting failed businesses, and improving the performance of sub-optimal sectors of business. Perhaps this endorsement from the Tea Party can lay to rest all the accusations of racism?

I'm not going to post a link to his web-site, I believe that violates CD rules. I'm not campaigning for him. But I encourage those of you who are not familiar with him to do a google search and read up. Then come back and share your thoughts with the forum. In particular:

If you consider yourself a Conservative, is this guy your candidate? If not, what are your reasons?

If you are a centrist, could you support Cain based on the expectation that he would be good for the economy? He likely comes with some conservative values attached, but there is no "perfect candidate" anyways. Could Cain be the centrists' best bet?

If you consider yourself a liberal, but perhaps are frustrated with the lack of progress, high levels of spending, and beginning to wonder why things just can't seem to turn around, would you consider crossing over and supporting Cain? Or do you believe that a change in the White House is not what the country needs, rather it lies somewhere else? (Loaded, I know. But these questions sort of shape themselves based on the topic.)

And because I can't stand it when people try to appear to be something they are not, I'll make it abundantly clear right now where it is that I stand. I am a pretty conservative guy. I loathe both political parties, but I would support Herman Cain if he earns the GOP Nomination. I do not expect that he will, which is a shame.

What are your thoughts on Herman Cain?
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Old 07-08-2011, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Herman Cain is an empty suit. If you ever listen to him speak you realize he isn't really saying anything other than buzz words that make conservatives salivate.

Any time he gets pressured he makes horrific gaffes like not knowing anything about Right of Return, confusing the constitution with the decleration or thinking legislation can fit on 5 pages (I'm aware he now claims he meant the executive summary).

He also doesn't seem to have any real view points on anything. When he gets asked a question about policy his token response is "I Don't know, but I will sit down with the "experts" and figure it out". I have heard him give that response multiple times to multiple answers.

Also I don't like the man because he was a member of the federal reserve and he has zero experience. Making pizzas at a third rate chain doesn't qualify anyone to be president. He can try to pretend that his lack of experience is an asset, but truth be told it is a liability. I'm pretty sure he learned about claiming liabilities as assets from the federal reserve. They are good at that crap.
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Old 07-08-2011, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I don't think he'll (he's not the only one) make it to my primary based on campaign contributions spread too thin over too many candidates so I'm thinking I'd be spinning my wheels to even think about supporting him. Not going to make that mistake, again.

I actually think he's more qualified to be President than Paul, Bachmann, Santorum and Gingrich.
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Old 07-08-2011, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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I actually think he's more qualified to be President than Paul, Bachmann, Santorum and Gingrich.

Explain.
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:13 PM
 
Location: The High Seas
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Cain is able.
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Cain is able.
Very funny. +1
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:20 PM
 
Location: The High Seas
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Very funny. +1
A man who likes biblical jokes!
If he uses it in his campaign, I want royalty rights.
At any rate, I hope he goes far.
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Old 07-08-2011, 07:22 PM
 
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He will not get the nomination and most people know this.
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Old 07-08-2011, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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At least he's more qualified than Romney, Huntsman, and Perry. Maybe he'll survive.
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Old 07-08-2011, 10:52 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Cain absent under Bush; irrelevant now

I find that Cain's business success does not qualify him to run this country. He is a member of a party that has miserably failed this country, most recently during the horrific Bush years. During those years, this loud-mouth, blunt, fast-talker didn't express one bit of outrage at Bush or his administration while they were destroying this country. Not one protest. Bush lied to go to war, not one word from Cain. Bush turned a surplus into a record deficit, and there wasn't any point during this transition that Hermain Cain stood up to protest. He didn't complain about spending during the Bush years. Didn't complain about the record deficit, the mismanaged wars and black hole of spending that it represented. He ignored the health care crisis. He is a member of a party that is comprised of people who have nothing but disdain and disrespect for people who look just like him. He ignores the fact that for him to be marginally accepted by Republicans, he must be outrageously ultra right-wing. He's a fool to devote this portion of his life to a vastly inferior ideology of the GOP.

Count him among the lunatics that are a member of a party that was supported by a young, segregation-obsessed George Wallace. Such a misguided, loudmouth imbecile cannot get my support. When matched up against President Obama, like all the other GOP suspects, he stinks.
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