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The 999 is basically a major tax increase. Pretty weird hearing it from someone who pretends to be against high taxes.
Only on certain groups of people. Mostly on lower income earners that have to spend every penny they make to survive. It is definitely not the good deal some think it is.
Only on certain groups of people. Mostly on lower income earners that have to spend every penny they make to survive. It is definitely not the good deal some think it is.
That is quite the irony, isn't it? The same crowd who signed a pledge with Grover Norquist Not to raise taxes, especially on those making more than 250,000 now comes out in support of the 999 plan which will significantly lower taxes for those very same people and raise it dramaticly on poor, middleclass and fixed income. Pretty much says it all and puts things into perspective.
That is quite the irony, isn't it? The same crowd who signed a pledge with Grover Norquist Not to raise taxes, especially on those making more than 250,000 now comes out in support of the 999 plan which will significantly lower taxes for those very same people and raise it dramaticly on poor, middleclass and fixed income. Pretty much says it all and puts things into context.
And it's not even something Reagan would do in a moment of pragmatism.
Only on certain groups of people. Mostly on lower income earners that have to spend every penny they make to survive. It is definitely not the good deal some think it is.
The Middle Class, especially families would be hit extremely hard by it.
The Middle Class, especially families would be hit extremely hard by it.
That's a great point and I overlooked it in my thinking. Families have to spend a great portion of their income on their children. That's why the government currently gives a child credit. With the 999 plan, the child credit disappears and a 9% tax is put in it's place. That would be a huge hit for the average middle class family.
But I guess they could buy all their clothes from goodwill to offset the tax.
19 out of 50 is not "few". It's 38%.
Substance matters.
19 out of 50 is few
truth matters, quit making up your own definition
few
1. not many but more than one: Few artists live luxuriously.
noun
2. (used with a plural verb ) a small number or amount: Send me a few.
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That is quite the irony, isn't it? The same crowd who signed a pledge with Grover Norquist Not to raise taxes, especially on those making more than 250,000 now comes out in support of the 999 plan which will significantly lower taxes for those very same people and raise it dramaticly on poor, middleclass and fixed income. Pretty much says it all and puts things into perspective.
I really think they can't understand it or maybe they do and they are just so hell bent to have their 'conservative' candidate they don't care. I really don't get what they are doing.
That is quite the irony, isn't it? The same crowd who signed a pledge with Grover Norquist Not to raise taxes, especially on those making more than 250,000 now comes out in support of the 999 plan which will significantly lower taxes for those very same people and raise it dramaticly on poor, middleclass and fixed income. Pretty much says it all and puts things into perspective.
Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan is doomed in it's current form. No chance this 'pro-corporate America,'...horrible for the middle and lower classes, theory....will NOT fly with the masses!!
Last edited by quality guy; 10-15-2011 at 01:46 AM..
Where did you get that? I disagree with a tax increase and a massive one at that. It's way way way more odd these days to see so called conservatives now up in arms about wanting a huge tax increase in the middle of a recession/depression.
By the way, he didn't lay out a single plan in any of that that he mentioned about SS. Nothing. It was lip service.
But I at least felt it should be up for everyone to see since we're discussing it and as far as I can see we're on page 11 (with a 40 post count per page) and not a single person actually stated his so called stance from his website.
you sound as though you want your cake and eat it too
We are buried in MASSIVE debt and status quo has been an epic fail for too many years!
We got to stop putting up wood barriers to block the raging fire.
How do you think everything will get paid for - buy the takers who don't pay their FAIR share? Can't spend ourselves out of debt - and we need the revenue (and new politicians) to stop burning through the S.S. fund's which have been compromised through waist and promises by those (many of whom no longer are in office) to pay what they failed to plan.
It has to stop ... nothing left to take ...
what's wrong with EVERYONE PAYING an equal portion of their income?
that's JUSTICE for ALL American's - why do you think one should be less entitled than the others?
We need to stop all the divide and conquer ... everyone has to pitch in to get this dug out!
I seem to remember a guy from our past that said, "read my lips, no new taxes". How'd that work out again?
Not knocking Cain, could be he's on to something. What exactly is anybody really sure?
Any one can balance a budget, make one side equal to the other side of a balance sheet. Is there any one who can increase revenue and decrease debt without doing it with tax payers money?
Those of you who do your own book work at home and have balanced budgets but still do not have and are broke from one pay check to the next...think about it.
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