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Old 11-12-2011, 09:19 PM
 
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No they aren't, They are going from one empty suited far right moron to the next. Its why we have a different flavor of the month each month
Perry is done. They won't support Cain that's for sure. Huntsman won't last. It all gravitates back to Ron Paul.
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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And...? Your point is.... Ron Paul has a lot of supporters who use the internet, so what? You're one of the select group of anti-Paul posters who can be counted on to troll a Ron Paul thread, sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, with some BS. For a candidate who "can't win" and is "crazy" you seem to spend an inordinate amount of time talking about him and thinking about him.

Seems as though you have been struck with Paul Derangement Syndrome:

It has nothing to do with anti-Paul or pro-Paul. It has to do with reality. Online polls can easily be spammed, they are meaningless and not the least bit Scientific. Neither is straw polls.

Ron Paul has very enthusiastic supporters, no question about that. Ron Paul dominates online forums, he also dominates online polls and straw polls. Again no question about that.

However, dominating online forums, online polls and straw polls does not mean someone is likely to win the nomination or even be competitive. If that was the case Ron Paul would have been the 2008 GOP nominee or at least be fairly competitive, but he wasn't, even though he dominated the online forums, the online polls and the straw polls back then also.
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Perry is done. They won't support Cain that's for sure. Huntsman won't last. It all gravitates back to Ron Paul.
Huntsman wouldn't get the current tea party supporters now anyway as he is far too moderate and way too much of an intellectual to get their support. It doesn't all gravitate back to Paul when the group itself has changed so much. Paul may have had support from the tea party circa 2007/2008. However, this isn't that tea party anymore.
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:29 PM
 
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It has nothing to do with anti-Paul or pro-Paul. It has to do with reality. Online polls can easily be spammed, they are meaningless and not the least bit Scientific. Neither is straw polls.

Ron Paul has very enthusiastic supporters, no question about that. Ron Paul dominates online forums, he also dominates online polls and straw polls. Again no question about that.

However, dominating online forums, online polls and straw polls does not mean someone is likely to win the nomination or even be competitive. If that was the case Ron Paul would have been the 2008 GOP nominee or at least be fairly competitive, but he wasn't, even though he dominated the online forums, the online polls and the straw polls back then also.
Online polls can't get spammed. One vote per IP address.
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:33 PM
 
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Online polls can't get spammed. One vote per IP address.

1. Online polls can certainly get spammed, anyone good with computers can hack and spam any poll

2. Online polls certainly do not get a representative sample of voters.

3. It gets compounded even more so when certain sites put links to every poll under the sun to get their supporters to vote in every poll.

4. Ron Paul's 2008 results show this. He dominated all of the online polls. He dominated all of the straw polls, but did squat in the actual voting.
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:36 PM
 
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It has nothing to do with anti-Paul or pro-Paul. It has to do with reality. Online polls can easily be spammed, they are meaningless and not the least bit Scientific. Neither is straw polls.

Ron Paul has very enthusiastic supporters, no question about that. Ron Paul dominates online forums, he also dominates online polls and straw polls. Again no question about that.

However, dominating online forums, online polls and straw polls does not mean someone is likely to win the nomination or even be competitive. If that was the case Ron Paul would have been the 2008 GOP nominee or at least be fairly competitive, but he wasn't, even though he dominated the online forums, the online polls and the straw polls back then also.
I always get the feeling that if Cain, Perry, or Romney were dominating the straw polls and online polls that there'd be a lot less talk of "spamming" and more talk about "front runner status."
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:40 PM
 
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Why do people place so much emphasis on strall polls which simply display those who bought the most votes, wins the poll? Do you not understand that its a buying of the vote and meaningless for the mostpoart?
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:44 PM
 
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I always get the feeling that if Cain, Perry, or Romney were dominating the straw polls and online polls that there'd be a lot less talk of "spamming" and more talk about "front runner status."
They have been ahead and competitive in the actual polling. If Ron Paul was competitive in the actual polling you wouldn't be hearing all of this spamming stuff. If Ron Paul didn't dominate the very same online polls he is dominating now back in 07/08 only to only get a few % in the Primaries perhaps you would not hear it.

If Cain, Perry or Romney dominated in the online polls and the straw polls, but did poorly in the national polling (which Perry is doing now btw) you would be hearing the exact same things about them as you are currently hearing about Paul.
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:49 PM
 
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Why do people place so much emphasis on strall polls which simply display those who bought the most votes, wins the poll? Do you not understand that its a buying of the vote and meaningless for the mostpoart?
Because there's a certain candidate who only wins one kind of polls--straw polls. So, his supporters tout the fantastic and wondrously spectacular predictive powers of straw polls...
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:56 PM
 
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I always get the feeling that if Cain, Perry, or Romney were dominating the straw polls and online polls that there'd be a lot less talk of "spamming" and more talk about "front runner status."
Yes. Just like when Cain won a straw poll. Ron Paul won the rest.
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