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Old 11-15-2011, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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that would be the progressive globalist liberal way

ever heard of the socialist Fabian Society...the beginning of the liberal reforms..ie the progressives.....

ever heard of HG wells.. a member of the Fabian society

During the 1930s H.G. Wells's theory of revolutionary praxis centred around a concept of ‘liberal fascism’ whereby the Wellsian ‘liberal’ utopia would be achieved by an authoritarian élite. Taking inspiration from the militarized political movements of the 1930s, this marked a development in the Wellsian theory of revolution from the ‘open conspiracy’ of the 1920s. in fact The term “liberal fascism” comes from a speech made by author H. G. Wells when he told a group of Young Liberals at Oxford that Progressives must become “liberal fascists” and “enlightened Nazis.”

fascism has a long history in American politics, spanning back to Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Delano Roosevelt. You can even finds fascist tendencies within the presidencies of John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson and Bill Clinton as each tried to create an “all-caring, all-powerful, all-encompassing” state. And you can see more recent signs of fascist ideology in the economic ideas of Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore, and Barrack Obama


Joseph Stalin, the General Secretary of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union, found it beneficial to label all ideas which he did not agree with as fascist; this included socialists who were disloyal to Moscow and, of course, the political right. Those loyal to his social doctrine also began to see communism and fascism on opposite ends when, yet, both are in fact socialist in nature.

Liberal Fascism is different from fascism of the past because today’s left are pacifists rather than militarists; their plan is to nanny, not to bully. Still, this method can be just as politically hazardous.

“Simply because the nanny state wants to hug you doesn’t mean it’s not tyrannical when you don’t want to be hugged,”


Corporatism aka fascism owing to the corporatist structures created by Mussolini's regime as well as in the latter years of the Third Reich under Albert Speer's direction. Corporatism was viewed by some as an appropriate strategy to prevent worker unrest, as well as a potentially and effective economic strategy. Franklin D. Roosevelt was one such proponent. While Roosevelt was not dictator- he declared a loathing for authoritarianism - his liberal corporatism was part of his vision for a "third way", reflected in the New Deal.
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""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini

fits liberals to a tee
I am sure that the avid watchers of Glenn Beck, like TempesT and meson have never heard any of the Fabian Society things you talk about since he never talks about that bunch. Maybe you did a good job of informing them of some historical knowledge that they haven't been able to avail themselves of.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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I am sure that the avid watchers of Glenn Beck, like TempesT and meson have never heard any of the Fabian Society things you talk about since he never talks about that bunch. Maybe you did a good job of informing them of some historical knowledge that they haven't been able to avail themselves of.
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Yep, the thread is about Walker and out comes that piece of crap.
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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wisconsin has been doing well in job GROWTH


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Wisconsin lost 12,500 jobs in the month of July, reported the Department of Workforce Development.
State Lost 12,500 Private-Sector Jobs Last Month - Waukesha, WI Patch
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And what connection does that have to teachers. What power does the government have over private sector jobs and whether or not a company is profitable enough to keep workers ?

You're trying to blame private companies laying off workers on the Governor ?
Isn't that stretching it a bit to make a square peg fit in a round hole ?
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:18 PM
 
Location: southwestern USA
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I am sure it is going to be a sad and morose day in Madison if and when Gov. Walker is recalled----I am sure all the bars on State Street willl close in protest of Walkers recall.
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:22 PM
 
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I am sure it is going to be a sad and morose day in Madison if and when Gov. Walker is recalled----I am sure all the bars on State Street willl close in protest of Walkers recall.
I'm sure it's going to look like mardi gras not just there, but nationwide
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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And what connection does that have to teachers. What power does the government have over private sector jobs and whether or not a company is profitable enough to keep workers ?

You're trying to blame private companies laying off workers on the Governor ?
Isn't that stretching it a bit to make a square peg fit in a round hole ?

I don't know. Why don't you ask the man who made this statement:

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“My top priority is job creation,” said Walker. “Our goal is to get the government out of the way so the people of Wisconsin, not the government, can create 250,000 jobs by 2015."
Governor Walker talks jobs in Northeast Wisconsin

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I will develop strategies for creating 250,000 new jobs and 10,000 new businesses by 2015
http://www.scottwalker.org/issues/jobs
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Here
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I'm sure it's going to look like mardi gras not just there, but nationwide

Yep. I'm sure all the non-union taxpayers will be partying it up chanting "take more of our money"!
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I'm sure it's going to look like mardi gras not just there, but nationwide
Well, you keep saying that, but so far all your predictions have come to naught.

We had the supreme court race, supposedly a referendum on Walker, which the Left/unions LOST.

We had the CB that was enacted into law - big LOSS their for the Left/unions.

We had the recall elections, the goal of which was taking control of the Senate - yep, you guessed it - Left/unions LOST again.

How many more smack downs can the Left/unions take in WI?
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Old 11-15-2011, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Yep. I'm sure all the non-union taxpayers will be partying it up chanting "take more of our money"!
Clearly they would rather give their money to the wealthy!
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