Obama, Romney neck-and-neck in 3 key states (Iran, candidacy, democrat, polls)
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In any other election cycle I would agree with you, but there is a hardcore faction of the Tea Party that is fed up with getting stuck with candidates that are what they consider to be RINOs. Will they hold their noses and vote for Romney, like they did for McCain? Maybe, if Romney puts a Tea Partier on the ticket, but even that didn't work for McCain.
No, you are probably wrong there. We will vote, Republicans always do (most anyway) but the problem will be getting people out to really work for him. Without a lot of work, he can not win..We have seen this in the past, it takes more than our vote in November. There are more Democrats and independents that will not support a Republican without our work.
No, you are probably wrong there. We will vote, Republicans always do (most anyway) but the problem will be getting people out to really work for him. Without a lot of work, he can not win..We have seen this in the past, it takes more than our vote in November. There are more Democrats and independents that will not support a Republican without our work.
You could very well be right, that Republicans will vote for the Republican on the ticket no matter who it is. My comments are based on what I'm observing on many far right wing forums, where they claim they will not support Romney no matter what. As the election draws nearer, it's likely some will change their minds about that, but I agree, I don't see any of them getting out and doing the work to help him win.
And if the far right does end us supporting Romney, it really makes the last three years of Tea Party noise kind of pointless. The GOP gives them another RINO, and they get in line and vote for him. All of their rallying against the entrenched GOP establishment will have changed nothing.
The same argument can be made if the opposite were to occur. If the Tea Party flavor of the week/month...who knows gets the nomination, Romney supporters will not be enthused to work for them either and even though they might vote for that person, Independents probably will not.
The same argument can be made if the opposite were to occur. If the Tea Party flavor of the week/month...who knows gets the nomination, Romney supporters will not be enthused to work for them either and even though they might vote for that person, Independents probably will not.
The effect would be minimal, as I have yet to see any proof that there are any real Romney enthusiasts out there (aside from you.) Any support I've seen for him appears to be tepid, to say the least. I doubt any Tea Party candidate would lament that loss of support, or even notice it.
The effect of indys will decide the election. Quite frankly, the TPs as stand alones when 61% of America will vote are a big so what, less than Perot 1992. If they fail to garner mainstream support, the posssible nomination will be their sole claim to fame. No one will remember once 1/20/2013 comes around.
TP has 9% favorable rating o/s the TP, so yes, dixiegirl7, a TP man or woman is DOA Nov, 2012 for the big prize, the presidency. This is MLB WS, 2010 was the bush league games. 21% more (61% vs 40% of 2010) = tens of millions voting in non TP Koolaid land.
The effect would be minimal, as I have yet to see any proof that there are any real Romney enthusiasts out there (aside from you.) Any support I've seen for him appears to be tepid, to say the least. I doubt any Tea Party candidate would lament that loss of support, or even notice it.
You are surely not that naive. How do you think Romney maintains such a consistent percentage in the polls without a strong core of supporters. From the internal polling the Romney campaign is doing on their own, enthusiasm and support is extremely high. We are being flooded with requests to volunteer in states you really wouldn't think about being big Mitt Romney strongholds. Because I am one of the few that can tolerate this site and will do it, don't mistake that for lack of support. That is just lack of bs tolerance level.
Sustaining being atop or within 2 in a field of 8 is underestimated. Its not an easy feat, especially when TP extremists are pushing their flavors of the week. If one averages the support weekly of MB, R(I)P, HC, etc, their support overall has been absolutely putrid (most under 1/2 of MR's avg support). As real primaries begin, as opposed to mini straw polls where our local high school pres got MORE votes, the pretenders will bow out fairly quick. Right now, these Gong Show contestants can stay around, on the cheap.
The same argument can be made if the opposite were to occur. If the Tea Party flavor of the week/month...who knows gets the nomination, Romney supporters will not be enthused to work for them either and even though they might vote for that person, Independents probably will not.
That is true, but there is another interesting argument there and it sort of plays off what Nita said, but for the other side. I know a lot of Democrats who would work their butts off for Obama if Romney is nominated because he is percieved as the only real electoral threat to Obama among the other Democrats I know. They would be much less inclined to work hard for Obama if they felt he was a shoo in against a far right TP candidate.
That is true, but there is another interesting argument there and it sort of plays off what Nita said, but for the other side. I know a lot of Democrats who would work their butts off for Obama if Romney is nominated because he is percieved as the only real electoral threat to Obama among the other Democrats I know. They would be much less inclined to work hard for Obama if they felt he was a shoo in against a far right TP candidate.
I see it that way too.
Also, I think OH is Obama's already as is MI and WI.
Florida will be the interesting one. It may come down to Hispanic turnout.
Also, I think OH is Obama's already as is MI and WI.
Florida will be the interesting one. It may come down to Hispanic turnout.
Ohio and PA and FLA are tied between Romney and Obama right now and we don't even have a nominee yet.
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Any support I've seen for him appears to be tepid, to say the least. I doubt any Tea Party candidate would lament that loss of support, or even notice it.
