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...he's a good debater but then Barack Obama decides not to debate.
Seriously, you have to consider it.
If I was Obama, I wouldn't debate. He's the sitting President. Why should he debate when all he'd do is play defense all night long? In 2008, there was no incumbent so a debate was a natural thing. But Obama doesn't have to debate if he doesn't want to. The debate would be all about a criticism of him and what he's done for the last 3.5 years. No matter who his opponent is in a debate, he can't win. Remember the movie "War Games" with a young Matthew Broderick and the computer and the tic tac toe game where the computer learned the only strategy was not to play? If I was Obama, that would be my strategy, too. No debates.
If Obama runs from a debate he will lose the election. Americans hate cowards .
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Where does this idea come from that Newt is a master debater? Are the Republicans just excited that they can count ONE person in their ranks who is not a manifest idiot who can't count to three? That doesn't mean Newt is a genius people. For some of us, you have to do a lot more than remember which federal programs you're going to cut to be considered smart.
Or the way former congressman Alan Grayson described Gingrich, as "A Stupid Person's Idea of What a Smart Person Looks Like"! And just look around us at the sort of folks who think he's "smart"... LOL!!
Or the way former congressman Alan Grayson described Gingrich, as "A Stupid Person's Idea of What a Smart Person Looks Like"! And just look around us at the sort of folks who think he's "smart"... LOL!!
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What does Grayson do now? Work in the complaint department at Macy's yelling at everybody?
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The media and the left are only making Republicans think its ok to nominate Gingrich. It is an ambush though. They are holding their fire until he is nominated. This guy has way too much luggage and the fact that they are not using it should be obvious as to their intentions. A Newt nomination means 4 more years of Obama.
But I certainly hope that Ron Paul decides to pull a Ross Perot (and run as an independent when he doesn't get the GOP nomination. That will be the absolute clincher for President Obama's 2nd term in office.
Yeah, because Obama's 1st term has been just dandy!
...he's a good debater but then Barack Obama decides not to debate.
Seriously, you have to consider it.
If I was Obama, I wouldn't debate. He's the sitting President. Why should he debate when all he'd do is play defense all night long? In 2008, there was no incumbent so a debate was a natural thing. But Obama doesn't have to debate if he doesn't want to. The debate would be all about a criticism of him and what he's done for the last 3.5 years. No matter who his opponent is in a debate, he can't win. Remember the movie "War Games" with a young Matthew Broderick and the computer and the tic tac toe game where the computer learned the only strategy was not to play? If I was Obama, that would be my strategy, too. No debates.
Gingrich is a pretty good speaker, but personally i don't think it will be too difficult for Obama to tear apart his policy proposals and make them look silly.
Problem is, Gingrich's "solutions" very much resemble the "problems" which got us into crisis. It will not be difficult for the Dems to associate Newt with crony capitalism and financial inequality, aka, the GOP blind spot.
The media and the left are only making Republicans think its ok to nominate Gingrich. It is an ambush though. They are holding their fire until he is nominated. This guy has way too much luggage and the fact that they are not using it should be obvious as to their intentions. A Newt nomination means 4 more years of Obama.
Don't blame Gingrich on the left. We have been saying all along this guy's a crackpot. The right just seems to want to commit political suicide this year. If they nominate Newt and go on to historic defeat they will have no one to blame but themselves... sure will be a great debate though, huh?
Gingrich is a pretty good speaker, but personally i don't think it will be too difficult for Obama to tear apart his policy proposals and make them look silly.
I don't think it will be too difficult for Gingrich to tear apart Obama's current record of the last 3 years.
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Don't blame Gingrich on the left. We have been saying all along this guy's a crackpot. The right just seems to want to commit political suicide this year. If they nominate Newt and go on to historic defeat they will have no one to blame but themselves... sure will be a great debate though, huh?
It would be a great debate. But the media is holding back though. One gets the impression that they are trying to stack the deck as much as they can to get the match-up they want.
Where does this idea come from that Newt is a master debater? Are the Republicans just excited that they can count ONE person in their ranks who is not a manifest idiot who can't count to three? That doesn't mean Newt is a genuis people. For some of us, you have to do a lot more than remember which federal programs you're going to cut to be considered smart.
I think most of this thinking comes from conservatives that conflate the quality of rhetoric with how closely it matches up with their preconceived beliefs. Since Newt tells them exactly what they want to hear and seems to agree with what they already think is correct, he is deemed to be a master of debate. I personally have always found Newt to come across as sanctimonious and arrogant with zero scruples. I am not so sure that the independents and moderates that actually decide presidential elections will be as enamored with Newt as the extreme right wing conservatives are. These same people thought that the country would love Sarah Palin too.
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