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Old 01-03-2012, 11:13 AM
 
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I find this statement he made more intriguing. Black people aren't actually smart enough to get a job outside the manufacturing industry apparently, so building that is how we'll get them off welfare.

“The best way to do that is to get the manufacturing sector of the economy rolling.”
He's simply going by what has most adversely affected working age black people, which is the dissolution of the manufacturing sector in America. I interpret your post to be some sort of backhanded "Republican's Are Racist" comment that clearly shows the state of liberal thinking when it comes to racial politics.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:14 AM
 
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As usual .. Lies, Damn Lies and the Liars that tell them are at work again!

This is the standard "Republicans-are-hardhearted racists" fare.

Because they don’t want to take from one person and give it to someone else, they’re cold, unfeeling racists who don’t care about the p-o-o-o-r.
Democrats, however, are warmhearted, loving, feeling people who just want to redistribute/take all the ill-gotten gains the nasty, evil rich have acquired dishonestly.
And since many minorities are also poorer than the rest of Americans, keeping stolen or redistributed money from them is racist.

Here's another side to the story so that .. folks can decide for themselves without the Lying, Liars spin on things!


Did Santorum really say he didn’t want to make “black people’s lives better”? « Hot Air
Yea, but that clip isn't conclusive. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt, but i wouldn't put it past him or any other Repub to say it because the party is certainly anti-black at it's core.

But anyway....no one should make a big deal out of this until it's clearer as to what he said.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:15 AM
 
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No matter how you look at it Republicans always want to try to remove safety nets prior to an alternatives being in place. And he is singling out black people when they aren’t the largest recipients of government aid at all.

Quote from Santorum:
"I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money; I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money."



Santorum targets blacks in entitlement reform - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
I wonder how long he would have support from his Republican cronnies if he said this about GE or GM or Cargill or a hundred other corporations who glean billions off our federal gov every year.

He would have the shortest career in history.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I don't understand why he felt compelled to single out Blacks in that context but I agree in substance with what he is saying.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:23 AM
 
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What's wrong with what he said? Does that scare the bejeezus out of Democrats, liberals, and black people that having to get up and go to work is his idea of success?
He was in Ia when he said that irrc. In Iowa 86% of the people on Food Stamps are white and only 4% are black. That is what is wrong with what he said . Comprende?
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I don't understand why he felt compelled to single out Blacks in that context but I agree in substance with what he is saying.
For the same reason that you've presented the blacks as a collective, and exactly along the lines he presented. The only difference between him and you is that one is black.

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He was in Ia when he said that irrc. In Iowa 86% of the people on Food Stamps are white and only 4% are black. That is what is wrong with what he said . Comprende?
The general understanding (and implementation) of the Southern Strategy is that, again in Atwater's words:
"You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites."

Right or wrong, that is a primary driver.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:29 AM
 
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He was in Ia when he said that irrc. In Iowa 86% of the people on Food Stamps are white and only 4% are black. That is what is wrong with what he said . Comprende?
Does "as a percentage of population" ever occur to you as being the more valid approach to population statistics and entitlement programs?

Iowa is 91% white and 2.9% black.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Does "as a percentage of population" ever occur to you as being the more valid approach to population statistics and entitlement programs?

Iowa is 91% white and 2.9% black.
Yep. THAT was Lee Atwater's point.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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For the same reason that you've presented the blacks as a collective, and exactly along the lines he presented. The only difference between him and you is that one is black.


The general understanding (and implementation) of the Southern Strategy is that, again in Atwater's words:
"You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites."

Right or wrong, that is a primary driver.
Actually my problem is the conversation was not about Blacks so what's the problem. A disproportionate number of Blacks are on welfare that is a fact an irrefutable fact.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Yea, but that clip isn't conclusive. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt, but i wouldn't put it past him or any other Repub to say it because the party is certainly anti-black at it's core.

But anyway....no one should make a big deal out of this until it's clearer as to what he said.
Republicans anti black at it's core? BULL S
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