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OOps, I will camp in the back yard, and blow the door if you don't let me in, to tell you how to think.
No one is telling Iran how to think, that went out the door when the fanatics took charge there, thinking is no longer allowed there.
If you tried it with me my roses would get some new fertilizer
Sanctions, are an act of war, yet no one is telling Iran how to think...
Common sense just went out the window.
Are you being rational, or just combative?
Sanctions are NOT an act of war, they are put in place to get the atention of a Nation that is behaving in an irrational manner. I thought you were a Paul fan club member, meaning we have the right to trade with a nation or not as we see fit, as do other nations. I agree, Paul and his supporters have lost all common sense, anyone tha believes that if simply leave everyone alone that they will love us and leave us alone is delusional at best, crackpot crazy and a danger to the security of the Nation most likely.
Sanctions are NOT an act of war, they are put in place to get the atention of a Nation that is behaving in an irrational manner. I thought you were a Paul fan club member, meaning we have the right to trade with a nation or not as we see fit, as do other nations. I agree, Paul and his supporters have lost all common sense, anyone tha believes that if simply leave everyone alone that they will love us and leave us alone is delusional at best, crackpot crazy and a danger to the security of the Nation most likely.
Sanctions most certainly are an act of war, on another sovereign nation.
Sanctions have always led to retaliation, of violence.
Japan, Germany, Korea, Vietnam, Kuwait, Iraq, now threats of bombing Iran, because they fought fire with fire and are going to apply sanctions to the Straights.
Sanctions most certainly are an act of war, on another sovereign nation.
Sanctions have always led to retaliation, of violence.
Japan, Germany, Korea, Vietnam, Kuwait, Iraq, now threats of bombing Iran, because they fought fire with fire and are going to apply sanctions to the Straights.
The only one of thise you listed that had anything at all to do with sanctions was Japan, and those were in place because they were attacking nations all across Asia, read more history, post less.
If they attempt to close the straights we and other natons will destroy their fleet and any other means they may have at their disposal. They can talk tough all they want but one should always be smart when talking tough, the other guy might just call your bluff and tear ya a new one.
Nope, wrong again, the act of war would be them attacking another ship from ANY other Nation, then the war is on, tarted by them, if they do nothing there is no war, see how simple it all is.
I am curious, if I remember corretly you served this Nation of ours and once understood that there are good reasons for us to have a very strong military and they serve us around the world as they are doing so right now in the straights. What on earth has changed your thinkig so much to believe that is no longer true?
I agree with the goals you state in principle, but history shows that that is not very likely.
I am not saying it can work TO SOME DEGREE but not to the point you are espousing.
Why? National interests will push some countries to use some type of aggression to achieve their goals. That is why, nations that end up being the top power do try to maintain that position because the moment they do not, somebody else will and that means to be at the mercy of that country.
I repeat, I praise your idealistic philosohpy. I wish what you want could be done but the reality does not allow it. Take care.
This is the most ridiculous thinking i have ever heard. You say Great nations have to become empires in order to defend their interests and remain the greatest nations , essentially by keeping others down.
Hmm, when was the last time a country tried this and failed ...? Russia? And before them ... Germany? And before them ... Britain? And before them ... Rome? And before them ... Greece? and before them ... Persia? and before them ... Babylon?
Who's next? America! Some people are incapable of learning from others mistakes, unfortunately those people seem to be running this country ...
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This is the most ridiculous thinking i have ever heard. You say Great nations have to become empires in order to defend their interests and remain the greatest nations , essentially by keeping others down.
Hmm, when was the last time a country tried this and failed ...? Russia? And before them ... Germany? And before them ... Britain? And before them ... Rome? And before them ... Greece? and before them ... Persia? and before them ... Babylon?
Who's next? America! Some people are incapable of learning from others mistakes, unfortunately those people seem to be running this country ...
And so what does all this mean, that as individual humans we in America should act like adults who pay our bills and live by our means and don't start fights with our neighbors, but as a nation we must spend beyond our limit and attack anyone we fear my not agree with our interests?
So its wrong for humans to bully other humans ans to steal other peoples wealth, but its okay for nations to bully other nations and steal their wealth?
Double standards are what make America great, right?
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You and they make excuses ... There is no excuse ... You trust in your power and might, and not in the value of virtue ... and that is why you and they always fail, and will continue to do so ... that is why every kingdom on earth under the sun has always failed, because corrupt men think they can gather the world under their wing, and are willing to murder in order to accomplish it. They defeat themselves, they cut their noses off to spite their own faces. They do not love their neighbors, much less their enemies, so they are doomed to fail ... for ever.
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