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I don't think Dr. Paul has a chance to get the GOP nod, but if he did get on the ticket he would have the support of disenfranchised independents and third-party supporters as well as many free-thinking Democrats. Add to that constitutionalist and party-line Republicans and you've got a majority.
How many Dems would forgive Gingrich's years of verbal abuse and cross the line to vote for him? Or Green Party voters? He'd get party-line Republicans and hard right independents, that's about it. A strong right-leaning independent or third-party candidate would steal enough votes from him to split the vote and ensure Obama of another term (a la Ross Perot in 1992).
I don't see Romney getting a lot of votes from the other side, either. And to be honest, he's pretty much just Obama with a better haircut, so I don't think it matters if he beats Obama or not.
Unless something major happens, I consider Bachman, Santorum, Perry, and the rest also-rans.
Getting another Neocon Rino, just so Obama isn't back in office, is not in my playbook.
What change?
No Hope!
Then you all should have focused on shortcomings of the republican party rather than engaging in a sing along with the rest of them... leading to NOW. Now, deal with the consequences. It is why I've repeatedly called Ron Paul... a useful idiot for the republican party.
He also said Chris Christie is what's giving Romney the oomph. That to me shows a man who doesn't get out of NY much to talk to "folks" around the country about politics. He just travels for entertainment and book signings.
Then you all should have focused on shortcomings of the republican party rather than engaging in a sing along with the rest of them... leading to NOW. Now, deal with the consequences. It is why I've repeatedly called Ron Paul... a useful idiot for the republican party.
I'd prefer to see the Republican party collapse. Same for the Democratic party. Then maybe all these moronic "my team is better than your team" voters will have to actually think about which candidate will better serve their country rather than sheepishly following the party leaders.
I'd prefer to see the Republican party collapse. Same for the Democratic party. Then maybe all these moronic "my team is better than your team" voters will have to actually think about which candidate will better serve their country rather than sheepishly following the party leaders.
That is a part of my point. You quickly pointed at "democrats too". Fix your home before you complain about others'.
That is a part of my point. You quickly pointed at "democrats too". Fix your home before you complain about others'.
I'm not sure if the bolded comment was directed at me or just a general statement.
If it was directed at me I should point out that I'm not affiliated with any party. In the state of Iowa independents caucus with the Republicans, which is why I'm interested. My earlier statement that Dr. Paul is the only Republican candidate that can beat Obama is simply an observation and shouldn't be taken as meaning that I'm part of the "we must beat Obama/the Democrats at any cost" movement.
In this comment I led with the Republicans because that's who's being discussed. I then made the comment about the Democrats to point out that it's not so much the Republican party itself that I see as the problem as the duoploy of having two parties that pretty much control politics in this country. The Republicans look bad this time around because there is a Democratic incumbant; if there were a Republican incumbant we'd be seeing the Democrats saying the same things.
I live pretty close to St. Louis, so there are a lot of Cardinal fans around here. Last year Albert Pujols was the greatest man who ever walked the face of the earth. Now that he has jumped ship to sign for the Angels he's a washed-up bum on the downhill side of his career. This sort of posturing is fine for spectator sports, but it should have no place in determining the leaders of our country.
My point is, if people would educate themselves about the candidates rather than just cheering for the home team we wouldn't see stupid discussions like this.
Now, if the bolded comment above was just a general statement, then never mind.
The republican party currently is in a civil war and its being going on for sometime ever since Reagan left office. Reagan brought the republican party together because he believed in liberty and had a message the worked for the base and outside the base of the party. The party has ignored liberty expanded government and become closer to the democrat party. The republican party started to come together with BUSH 2000 run of limited government NO NATION BUILDING, World policeman policies. Then 9-11 happened and neocons took over the party giving republicans the choice of WAR and more government is the only solution. They talk about limited government but that only means less taxes not ACTUALLY following limited government princples. Reagan was not perfect, he created debit and had many other issues to deal with over the democrat congress. But Reagan's message was sound.. Ron Paul is truly the best choice to take back a conservative PRINCPLED message liberty and has the record to back it up.
I'm not sure if the bolded comment was directed at me or just a general statement.
If it was directed at me I should point out that I'm not affiliated with any party.
It was directed at you. Regardless of whether you're open about your affiliations or not, the pointing fingers is the biggest of problems. And Ron Paul is running as a republican candidate, and unlikely to be the candidate. So, while democratic party may have its own issues, I'm pointing at a party Ron Paul signed up with, identifies with and preaches a lot about things it clearly doesn't care about. Why bother with "but democrats"?
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