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Old 01-05-2012, 02:40 PM
 
Location: The Brightest City On Earth
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I think the Republicans made a mistake when they followed the Democrats into changing the primary rules to "proportional representation" as opposed to the old winner takes all primaries. It used to be that a well qualified candidate like Romney could win the early primary states and sweep the delegates. The losers got nothing. The benefit of this is that the fringe candidates like Bachmann, Paul, Parry and Newt would be forced out of the race early on and allow Romney to train all his fire on Obama. The new system, which awards delegates on the basis of votes cast, just encourages candidates to hold on and cut each other up while the true enemy, Obama, just sits and smiles while we fight each other.
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:47 PM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Proportional representation is in line with all the writings of our nation's forefathers. This way, the corporations have to work that much harder at buying off the politicians and gives the common folk a shot at true representation.
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:52 PM
 
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proportional rep is closer to having individual votes actually matter.

good system. The current R set up is only half proportional rep as primaries after march I believe are all winner take all
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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Proportional representation is in line with all the writings of our nation's forefathers. This way, the corporations have to work that much harder at buying off the politicians and gives the common folk a shot at true representation.
You get a rep for that!!
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:39 PM
 
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Winner take all systems make it much easier for a 25% candidate like Romney to walk into the nomination without a fight.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:44 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Proportional representation makes Obama's Reelection more likely.

Winner takes all quickens the process, and allows more time to run a campaign against Obama, as opposed to against other Republicans.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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Proportional representation makes Obama's Reelection more likely.

Winner takes all quickens the process, and allows more time to run a campaign against Obama, as opposed to against other Republicans.
But does it make it right???

I want Obama gone as much as anyone, but let's not sacrifice more of our founding principles to do it. pleeez!
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:54 PM
 
Location: southwestern USA
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I agree that proportional representation allows candidates that are not financial powerhouses a better shot at being competetive.

A winner takes all concept allows a zillionaire candidate to unload megamoney into the early primaries and hope to kill off any opposition through a couple early victories. By allowing other candidates to capture a corresponding share of convention delegates based on their percentage of the vote, it does make more difficult to buy the nomination.

It also allows voters more time to really get a solid readout on all the candidates and maybe prevent the mistake of rushing into selection of a candidate that they would later regret.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:55 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Not sure if it makes it right, but I think most Repubs underestimate how much more radical a now not running again Obama would be as of 1/20/2013.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I think the Republicans made a mistake when they followed the Democrats into changing the primary rules to "proportional representation" as opposed to the old winner takes all primaries. It used to be that a well qualified candidate like Romney could win the early primary states and sweep the delegates. The losers got nothing. The benefit of this is that the fringe candidates like Bachmann, Paul, Parry and Newt would be forced out of the race early on and allow Romney to train all his fire on Obama. The new system, which awards delegates on the basis of votes cast, just encourages candidates to hold on and cut each other up while the true enemy, Obama, just sits and smiles while we fight each other.
I have mixed feelings, hubby would agree with you.

Nita
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