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Old 02-07-2012, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Greater Washington, DC
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You cant look back at 08. You can clearly tell they dont want romney.
You're right, I don't know why I'm looking for empirical evidence to draw parallels with. Clearly this race is over. The non-binding caucus of MN and the beauty contest of MO said so. Let's all get behind Santorum, never mind how painfully low he is in the same national polls that Romney is overwhelmingly leading....
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Yes he did lose tonight. But every candidate who won tonight (Santorum, arguably Paul) has lost even more. There's no spin, everything we said is entirely true.
The thing is though that Romney did not just take a bolt from the blue. He has been having a terrible week with his foot in his mouth and polls showing that people don't like him the more they know him. This night is more in the way of a trend than an anomaly. He may find his legs again, but there is Maine and then nothing until AZ and MI at the end of the month. All the press is going to be about how weak he is, can he recover etc, etc for the next few weeks straight.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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It would be a Godsend if Santorum would get the nomination!

A Godsend for us non-clown Republicans.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:54 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Glad to see Santorum get his 5 minutes in the sun. Now back to real, binding primaries that actually decide things.

By Thursday, this will be like a footnote in a 500 page book. Devoid of meaning.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:57 PM
 
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The thing is though that Romney did not just take a bolt from the blue. He has been having a terrible week with his foot in his mouth and polls showing that people don't like him the more they know him. This night is more in the way of a trend than an anomaly. He may find his legs again, but there is Maine and then nothing until AZ and MI at the end of the month. All the press is going to be about how weak he is, can he recover etc, etc for the next few weeks straight.
Well again, while I do understand why some may not see the relevance of 2008, McCain made it through a similar situation pretty unscathed, and he had largely the same criticism thrown at his candidacy.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:58 PM
 
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Well again, while I do understand why some may not see the relevance of 2008, McCain made it through a similar situation pretty unscathed, and he had largely the same criticism thrown at his candidacy.
and he lost to Obama - badly.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:58 PM
 
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Glad to see Santorum get his 5 minutes in the sun. Now back to real, binding primaries that actually decide things.

By Thursday, this will be like a footnote in a 500 page book. Devoid of meaning.
Thank you for saying in one short post exactly what I've been trying to articulate this whole time
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:03 PM
 
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No problem, tmsterp. Non-binding primaries are for also rans like Santorum to spend money on to win, while real contenders save their funds for the states that count.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:04 PM
 
Location: The Brightest City On Earth
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He's going to lose Missouri and Minnesota, and its not even close. Colorado who knows, too early. Santorum is going to have a month before super tuesday to build himself up even more as the true conservative to defeat Romney.

Gingrich should endorse Santorum and leave the race. Romney may be the weakest front runner in history. I said he wouldnt win the nomination from the get go, and still dont believe he will.
He will win the nomination and has a fairly good chance of winning the Presidency in November.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Texas
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and he lost to Obama - badly.
He still got close to 46% of the vote. In a year when people were very upset with Republicans and not so much with Democrats; now they are upset with both.

And remember his running mate?

I am very, very concerned about the general election. But I don't think you can compare 2008 and 2012 (though I do think you can compare Romney and McCain).
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