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Old 03-15-2012, 05:31 PM
 
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"My test is pretty simple. Is the program so critical that it's worth borrowing money from China to pay for? And on that basis, of course you get rid of Obamacare. That's the easy one. But there are others. Planned Parenthood, we're going to get rid of that. There's a subsidy for Amtrak. I would eliminate that. National Endowment for the Arts, National Endowment for the Humanities. Both excellent programs but we just can't afford to borrow money to pay for those things," he said."

Read more: Democrats Jump On Romney For Vowing To End Funding For Planned Parenthood | Fox News


I like what he says here. We should not be indebted to China for birth control or art or train travel. A government with a healthy economy can afford to consider such things. That is not us right now. Let the private sectors kick in where desirable.

I've never understood Amtrak; it's a legal monopoly owned by the govt, it charges like $110 for a ticket and it's always packed. How in the world do we need to borrow money to run Amtrak?

And keep dreaming Romney, if we didn't need to borrow money from China don't you think we would have stopped a long time ago? Where else are we going to borrow from? Your billionaire friends? What a joke...
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:58 PM
 
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And keep dreaming Romney, if we didn't need to borrow money from China don't you think we would have stopped a long time ago? Where else are we going to borrow from? Your billionaire friends? What a joke...
I think the idea is to stop spending so much money so we don't have to borrow it from anybody.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:24 PM
 
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I understand that but cutting planned parenthood hood means hundreds of thounds more kids a year that we can't pay for. (those kids parents will receive something from the govt for having those kids, rather it's food stamps or what) Cut another program to save us money and to slow our borrowing into we have enough cuts and actual revenue over expenses because unfortunately China is right, we are living beyond our means but even China has something similar to planned parenthood. (and they also have the 1 child policy)
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Old 04-04-2012, 12:36 AM
 
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i want to borrow money 3000 usd i wil pay to china company plz help me i am in trouble i wil pay u after 4 weaks i promise u if ill not pay kill me ..plz help me reply me i am waititing i have to pay today i dnt know what to do,. plz help me
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:33 AM
 
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So no $$ for things critical to women's health needs such as cervical cancer screenings papsmears, treatments for ovarion cancer, but has no problems with spending the $$$ to prepare for the war with Iran he has saber rattled about....
The government gives money for those causes in other ways including medicaid. Why keep funding a private company that is controversial?
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:40 AM
 
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I understand that but cutting planned parenthood hood means hundreds of thounds more kids a year that we can't pay for. (those kids parents will receive something from the govt for having those kids, rather it's food stamps or what) Cut another program to save us money and to slow our borrowing into we have enough cuts and actual revenue over expenses because unfortunately China is right, we are living beyond our means but even China has something similar to planned parenthood. (and they also have the 1 child policy)
According to the democrats, the money doesn't go to abortions.
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Old 04-04-2012, 02:44 AM
 
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Constitution clearly provides for the Military.....cervicle screenings.......not so much.
It provides for defense, not for going off around the world projecting American offensive power

BTW, it also provides for promoting the general welfare, better done by ensuring a healthy population than by saber rattling.
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:15 AM
 
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It has already started if you were watching the DNC guy on CNN this morning. 2008 was Hope and Change. 2012 is Fear. If Romney is elected, grandma will die, there will be massive amounts of homeless wandering the streets, and America will fade to a has been. All because Romney is going to propose a more responsible budget - as opposed to Obama whose budgets can't even get a single vote in the Democratically controlled Senate.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:18 AM
 
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It has already started if you were watching the DNC guy on CNN this morning. 2008 was Hope and Change. 2012 is Fear. If Romney is elected, grandma will die, there will be massive amounts of homeless wandering the streets, and America will fade to a has been. All because Romney is going to propose a more responsible budget - as opposed to Obama whose budgets can't even get a single vote in the Democratically controlled Senate.
Maybe we should just ask why Romney is so willing to borrow $$$ from China to finance saber rattling around the world?
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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"My test is pretty simple. Is the program so critical that it's worth borrowing money from China to pay for? And on that basis, of course you get rid of Obamacare. That's the easy one. But there are others. Planned Parenthood, we're going to get rid of that. There's a subsidy for Amtrak. I would eliminate that. National Endowment for the Arts, National Endowment for the Humanities. Both excellent programs but we just can't afford to borrow money to pay for those things," he said."

Read more: Democrats Jump On Romney For Vowing To End Funding For Planned Parenthood | Fox News


I like what he says here. We should not be indebted to China for birth control or art or train travel. A government with a healthy economy can afford to consider such things. That is not us right now. Let the private sectors kick in where desirable.
Well, that sounds "reasonable", but that is hardly the way to reduce the federal debt. It has been well established that defense, SS/Medicare, and Medicaid are the big money items in the federal budget.

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Because some women are concerned about the fact that we're spending a bunch of money we don't have and some women are sick of paying for things for other women and for men who have a sense of entitlement. Some women think policies supported by Republicans are better for economy. Some women want lower taxes. Some women are business owners who want less regulations. Hell, some women are actually pretty socially conservative (a lot of women are Santorum supporters because of his social conservatism...I don't see how anyone - male or female - could support Santorum or have such extreme views but, hey, a lot of women and men alike do).

This has nothing to do with any "war on women." Why should the federal government be spending any money on Planned Parenthood when it has to borrow trillions of dollars a year? Newsflash: The country is broke. Cuts HAVE to be made and they're going to hurt. Better to do it before we end up like Greece.

Remember, this is not the only thing Romney has said he would cut. If it was, you might have a point. Also remember that Planned Parenthood does provide some services for men. Romney would cut funding for those as well.



This was before the country was close to $16 trillion in debt. Not to mention he was talking about the state funding Planned Parenthood rather than the federal government funding it. He has changed his stance on abortion since that time, but he has not changed his stance on contraception.

Furthermore, just because someone personally supports Planned Parenthood doesn't necessarily mean they favor requiring taxpayers to fund it nor does it necessarily mean they favor borrowing from China to fund it.
Where do people get the idea that services at PP are free? PP accepts Medicaid, a state-federal partnership, and for all others there is a sliding fee scale. They also accept donations, and get grant money. They are not a federal program.

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The government gives money for those causes in other ways including medicaid. Why keep funding a private company that is controversial?
The only controversy is in the minds of the Susan G. Komen types. Many physicians don't take medicaid, which PP does. Many communities have no doctor that accpets medicaid. Lots of women get their routine gyn care from PP. No federal money is used to provide PP abortions, and many PP clinics don't even do abortions.
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