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I encourage you to tell me which part is wrong and possibly provide a link.
Many of the bound delegates that Ron Paul supporters are excited over.....are bound for at least the first round to vote for someone else.....bound means tied to the actual voters from their state or district within the state for the first round at minimum.
Ron Paul is using "fuzzy math" to take a phrase from 2000. Most of his delegates that he is counting do support him, but are obligated to vote for someone else in the 1st round by convention rules and sometimes even later rounds.
I know that it is so sad that 75.6% of the delegates are bound to vote in the 1st round by Ron Paul's biggest enemy - the popular vote - the will of the masses.
Then what percentage of the delegates are bound on the first round of balloting? Please provide us with alternative information if you are going to make those bold assertions.
Keep in mind, candidates choose their delegates. In some states, the people voting may have no idea who the delegates support when they vote for them, but it doesn't matter since they are bound to the popular vote. In such cases, people will randomly vote for delegate names with no idea who they are for. Those delegates, being chosen randomly, are just as likely to support Paul, Romney, Santorum, or Gingrich (well, not Santorum since he usually can't find enough delegates to support him in time). In many states, like mine, the ballot tells you who each delegate supports. I will be voting for 3 Romney delegates. Those Romney delegates are just as committed to Romney as Paul's delegates are to him. They are not anxiously waiting to vote for Ron Paul on a second round of balloting, they will stay with Romney.
Paul will force a brokered convention and will likely to win. His supporters has make it very clear that it is Paul or no one. If they want to get rid of Obama, Paul is their best chance.
Just look at the fact now, this is base on the "total" included caucus delegates from WSJ/CNN. Total delegates outstanding primary is total of 1237
Romney: ~ 500
Santorum: ~250
Gingrich: ~130
For Romney, he will needs about about 650 or 50%.
Santorum: about 70%. He will need a miracles.
Gingrich: about 80%. He will drops out.
Assume Romney does get the 50% of the remaining primary delegates, he shouldn't wouldn't have enough. Because about 1/3 of his 500 is from the caucus. Caucus delegate cannot be used. So he really need about 150 delegates to secure it. That mean instead of 650 delegates, he will need 800 out of 1237 delegates to secure it.
Unless some how both Santorum and Gingrich drop out today, he will not able to secure it.
Paul still has a lot of money, he will be able to compete in these primary states that he has been reluctant to complete earlier. He will attack more and more after Gingrich drops out, most likely before the next debate.
What happens if Gingrich drops out. Can he give his delegates to Santorum or that's not up to him?
What happens if Gingrich drops out. Can he give his delegates to Santorum or that's not up to him?
No one can "give" their delegates to anyone. When a candidate drops out, the delegates become unbound. That delegate can then vote for anyone they want. While the majority of the Romney and Santorum delegates are their own supporters, a good chunk of them are actually Paul supporters (I know some personally who fall into this bracket). If Romney or Santorum gets 1,144 delegates in the first ballot itself, then good for them, but I doubt this will happen. If not, then all bets are off. That's when you see the so-called Romney and Santorum "supporters" magically start to switch their votes to Paul.
No one can "give" their delegates to anyone. When a candidate drops out, the delegates become unbound. That delegate can then vote for anyone they want. While the majority of the Romney and Santorum delegates are their own supporters, a good chunk of them are actually Paul supporters (I know some personally who fall into this bracket). If Romney or Santorum gets 1,144 delegates in the first ballot itself, then good for them, but I doubt this will happen. If not, then all bets are off. That's when you see the so-called Romney and Santorum "supporters" magically start to switch their votes to Paul.
Prepare to be shocked in Tampa.
Prepare to be shocked in Tampa. You too. Maddow, like all political TV pundits make a living on half truths. She didn't talk about "bound delegates."
Your homework this weekend. Look up the definition of bound delegates. Most (75.6%) delegates are bound on the first ballot.
Maybe there's a big conspiracy by the GOP to get Paul elected, and that's why they designed the system to benefit him. All of this under the guise of pretending to hold Paul back. I knew it!
Hey, it's not any crazier than some of the conspiracy theories Paul's people have put out there
Actually one of the craziest I have seen is from a non-paul supporter.
No one can "give" their delegates to anyone. When a candidate drops out, the delegates become unbound. That delegate can then vote for anyone they want. While the majority of the Romney and Santorum delegates are their own supporters, a good chunk of them are actually Paul supporters (I know some personally who fall into this bracket). If Romney or Santorum gets 1,144 delegates in the first ballot itself, then good for them, but I doubt this will happen. If not, then all bets are off. That's when you see the so-called Romney and Santorum "supporters" magically start to switch their votes to Paul.
Prepare to be shocked in Tampa.
I can't believe you really think many of Santorum and/or Newt supporters are really Paul supporters. How can you be serious? This makes absolutely no sense!!!
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