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Be serious. Obama is leading in projected electoral votes, by a lot. And in case you haven't noticed, the economy has been recovering since two months into Obama's presidency when the stimulus took effect.
Yeah, it sucks that the national debt is so high. Obama inherited a lot of that debt from Bush who left the debt much worse than what he inherited from Clinton. Obama had to provide the stimulus to save the country from another Great Depression, and it worked. And something had to be done about spiraling health care costs, the market by itself was not getting the job done. Most of the provisions of the Affordable Care Act don't go into effect until 2014.
Obama offered Boehner a deal to lower the national debt by $4 trillion dollars over 10 tears ($3 trillion in cuts even some to Democratic sacred cows, and $1 trillion in a modest increase in taxes just to those who can most afford it). This the the best deal the Republicans were ever going to get. They could have bragged about how they won by cutting the federal gov't by $3 trillion and reducing the debt by $4 trillion. But, Tea Partiers ruined it and threatened the good faith and credit of the USA by threatening not to raise the debt ceiling. Tea Party candidates should be harshly punished at the polling booths for that stunt, for holding the country hostage.
If we can't have Democrats, please let us have reasonable, moderate Republicans. We do need to tackle the debt and figure out how to make Social Security and Medicare sustainable. We need adults in the room to handle that, not Tea Party zealots who won't compromise under any condition.
It's rude to ask people how much they make, but I would expect as much. How much are you making to post desperate polls from over a week ago to try and show Obama in a better light? Must be a pretty good to have to support him and his record.
What conservatives stand for has nothing to do with religion. Conservatives stand for exactly what the term defines....smaller more conservative government....responsible management of government revenue....reduce wasteful spending....enforce our laws as they were written. That is the basics....no bible thumping extremists.....certainly nothing like the CHRISTIAN haters on the left.
We need to get the country out of the grip of the influence of people like like pelosi, reid, and obama. we need to rein in spending...not increase it. That has to happen BEFORE there is ANY real improvement in the economy.
In a way, the US is lucky right now that the Euro is in trouble just as the US dollar is...otherwise, the world currency could easily shift to the Euro and that would spell DISASTER for the US.
You left wingtards need to reel it in a bit on the hysterical nonsensical commentary that you spew....it really marginalizes your opinions when you come off like a hysterical loon. (witness your statement above)
The first bold is laughable as thats first and foremost what they stand for.
The second bold has many implications. You mean as written in what way? Slavery? White men only? What is this as written?
The first bold is laughable as thats first and foremost what they stand for.
The second bold has many implications. You mean as written in what way? Slavery? White men only? What is this as written?
It is difficult to discuss anything with a person as invested in ignorance as you seem to be.
It is conservatives offering a budget that cuts spending. Democrat/liberals offer nothing resembling a budget, and the only thing they offer is continuing expansion of government with the accompanying costs.
Liberals don't seem to have any sort of understanding that this deficit is directly tied to the economic woes of this country, and instead believe that printing MORE money, and expanding the role of government by throwing more money at problems is the answer to all things. Well...it isn't. obama has proven that in the 3 1/2 miserable years he has spent accomplishing nothing as president of this country. the dwindling number of his supporter...like you...are equally myopic and clueless to the facts.
There are two answers: more than $4 trillion, or about $983 billion. The first answer is simple and wrong. The second answer is more complicated but a lot closer to being right.
And most of that $983 billion comes from the $800 billion stimulus plan which Obama had to do to turn the economy around, and it worked. Thank Obama.
Look, the best time to take care of the deficit is when the economy is strong and growing. When the economy is weak, that is when government needs to increase spending to increase demand. People have more money to spend on things and so the demand goes up for products and services boosting the economy. Once the economy is going well again, the federal government can pay down its deficit again.
Here is the problem, the economy was doing well under Clinton, even with the slightly higher taxes on everyone and higher taxes on the rich. And the federal government was doing so well, Clinton's second term ended with a budget surplus! Now, when Bush came to power, he should have applied that budget surplus to the deficit and if he had in a few years the deficit would have been completely wiped out. Yay! But, instead Bush squandered the surplus and gave tax breaks to everyone, but especially big ones to the rich. And he increased federal government by a lot at the same time he lowered revenues, which increased the deficit. Everyone's living high on the hog, except home lenders and investment bankers have been engaging in some very risky lending/investments and no one is stopping them because Bush cut regulations and regulators. These lending and investment companies are no so long and control so much of the nation's assests, that if they fail, they will bring the whole economy down with them.
And that is what happened. Bush tried to prop up these investment firms through TARP so they would not take the entire economy down. This is where the term "too big to fail" comes from, meaning if they fail they bring the entire economy down with them. What needs to be done about that and hasn't yet been done is the fed needs to require that they break themselves up into smaller investment banks, ala anti-Trust legislation of the early 20th century. They would still keep all of their assests, they would just be diversified such that if one of them fail it doesn't ruin all of them and the whole economy.
Anyway, TARP didn't do too much to help the economy, it just saved a number of investment banks from going belly up, and most of the TARP monies have been paid back.
Anyway, Obama did not come into office on a wave of economic prosperity in which he could begin paying down the deficit. He came to office with the economy that was bleeding profusely and it needed an infusion fast to stabilize the economy. A stimulus would add to the deficit, but he had to prioritize here. What is more important? Preventing another Great Depression or adding to the deficit which could be paid back once the economy was on solid ground again. He made the right choice and all of us are beneficiaries of it. The economy is still on the mend, but as it recovers Obama can begin to turn his attention to paying down the deficit.
Look, the best time to take care of the deficit is when the economy is strong and growing. When the economy is weak, that is when government needs to increase spending to increase demand. People have more money to spend on things and so the demand goes up for products and services boosting the economy. Once the economy is going well again, the federal government can pay down its deficit again.
Here is the problem, the economy was doing well under Clinton, even with the slightly higher taxes on everyone and higher taxes on the rich. And the federal government was doing so well, Clinton's second term ended with a budget surplus! Now, when Bush came to power, he should have applied that budget surplus to the deficit and if he had in a few years the deficit would have been completely wiped out. Yay! But, instead Bush squandered the surplus and gave tax breaks to everyone, but especially big ones to the rich. And he increased federal government by a lot at the same time he lowered revenues, which increased the deficit. Everyone's living high on the hog, except home lenders and investment bankers have been engaging in some very risky lending/investments and no one is stopping them because Bush cut regulations and regulators. These lending and investment companies are no so long and control so much of the nation's assests, that if they fail, they will bring the whole economy down with them.
And that is what happened. Bush tried to prop up these investment firms through TARP so they would not take the entire economy down. This is where the term "too big to fail" comes from, meaning if they fail they bring the entire economy down with them. What needs to be done about that and hasn't yet been done is the fed needs to require that they break themselves up into smaller investment banks, ala anti-Trust legislation of the early 20th century. They would still keep all of their assests, they would just be diversified such that if one of them fail it doesn't ruin all of them and the whole economy.
Anyway, TARP didn't do too much to help the economy, it just saved a number of investment banks from going belly up, and most of the TARP monies have been paid back.
Anyway, Obama did not come into office on a wave of economic prosperity in which he could begin paying down the deficit. He came to office with the economy that was bleeding profusely and it needed an infusion fast to stabilize the economy. A stimulus would add to the deficit, but he had to prioritize here. What is more important? Preventing another Great Depression or adding to the deficit which could be paid back once the economy was on solid ground again. He made the right choice and all of us are beneficiaries of it. The economy is still on the mend, but as it recovers Obama can begin to turn his attention to paying down the deficit.
Hey great work on this post. I bet they cant argue honestly against this
Those are the facts. Not tea party spin. The tea party must be stopped and lots of people without blind hate for Obama think this way.
not only did you not get outta here, but you didnt bother to be serious yourself.
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