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It is very hard to find a credible path to victory for Romney in the electoral math.
Yep. I don't put much stock in individual polls, but instead trends in polls. Romney has not led in Ohio, WI, MI or PA yet, and most of the VA polls put Obama ahead. FL seems to be split.
And it will be a sad day for America if this clueless boob wins another 4 years. We could only hope that the republicans can keep control of the house and continue to block the exaggerated spending of this administration and the democrats who just don't seem to understand that the debt is tied in with the economy...and all of that is tied in with the WORLD economy because the US dollar is the world currency.
There must be a learning disability for democrats when it comes to the fact that the value of the dollar is very dependent on the size of the debt, and how much printed money is flooding the world....and the value of that dollar also effects prices of food...clothing....gas...EVERYTHING.
Again...a SAD day for America if obama wins. We need an actual leader with a PLAN...not someone who is unqulaified for the job and who has NO plan.
Obama would like to reduce the deficit, but through smart cuts in spending and through raising taxes modestly on the richest of the rich.
If the Republicans were serious about reducing the deficit, they would agree to some tax increases on the richest of the rich in exchange for some cuts. They won't, so they are not serious about reducing the deficit. All they want to do is hurt the poor and middle class by ending the social safety nets some unfortunate people need to get by.
Obama would like to reduce the deficit, but through smart cuts in spending and through raising taxes modestly on the richest of the rich.
If the Republicans were serious about reducing the deficit, they would agree to some tax increases on the richest of the rich in exchange for some cuts. They won't, so they are not serious about reducing the deficit. All they want to do is hurt the poor and middle class by ending the social safety nets some unfortunate people need to get by.
The truth is that taxes are the one great issue that the Republicans have. I know plenty of people who don't give two craps about the culture war stuff that the Republicans are selling, but they know that Republicans won't raise taxes (except for Reagan and George HW Bush).
Short of needing extra money to stop an invasion I don't see the Republicans ever agreeing to a tax increase. On the other hand the Democrats have shown that they are willing to accept cuts.
Obama would like to reduce the deficit, but through smart cuts in spending and through raising taxes modestly on the richest of the rich.
If the Republicans were serious about reducing the deficit, they would agree to some tax increases on the richest of the rich in exchange for some cuts. They won't, so they are not serious about reducing the deficit. All they want to do is hurt the poor and middle class by ending the social safety nets some unfortunate people need to get by.
Good Lord....If I hear that FAILED argument about raising taxes on the rich, I think I'll just puke.
A SHARP raise in taxes on the rich....up to 45%.... would result in LESS than $50 BILLION....not enough to pay for even the INTEREST on the deficit.
The tax the rich scheme is a ruse....designed to make people think that obama is the hero to the poor. When in FACT, a complete tax REFORM would be the REAL ticket to reducing the federal deficit. Even a FLAT TAX...with no deductions...would generate untold BILLIONS.. Just the fact that 100% of the workforce would be paying taxes....AS THEY SHOULD BE...would produce enough revenue to balance a budget AND pay down the deficit.
Going to a flat tax...if done properly....would eliminate ALL loopholes for EVERYONE, and on top of it all, a reduced tax rate could be implemented because the government would not have to issue REFUNDS.
All it takes is a bit of common sense. But this idea that taxing the SH*T out of the rich is the answer to all of our prayers is a flat out LIE.
As for your take on the repulicans wanting to 'hurt the poor and middle class'?? Really....are you seriously promoting such an ignorant stance?? The social safety nets that you speak of are lifetime welfare recipients and people who CAN work but have decided to milk the Social Security department DRY by claiming disability. I'm all in favor of giving people a hand up when they need it....but the system is FAR over abused and anyone with a lick of sense KNOWS it.
As for welfare?? WORK for welfare...or don't get it. PERIOD...and it only lasts a specified amount of time...not a LIFETIME. Handouts, bailouts, welfare, disability...only enable people to RAPE the system while those who TRULY are in need will suffer for it. I personally know people who are completely capable of working but LIE about disability to get a government handout...because...'eh...they don't want to work no more. That has to change. And I don't really know of any other way to change it than to take it apart and rebuild it.
A SHARP raise in taxes on the rich....up to 45%.... would result in LESS than $50 BILLION....not enough to pay for even the INTEREST on the deficit.
The tax the rich scheme is a ruse....designed to make people think that obama is the hero to the poor. When in FACT, a complete tax REFORM would be the REAL ticket to reducing the federal deficit. Even a FLAT TAX...with no deductions...would generate untold BILLIONS.. Just the fact that 100% of the workforce would be paying taxes....AS THEY SHOULD BE...would produce enough revenue to balance a budget AND pay down the deficit.
Going to a flat tax...if done properly....would eliminate ALL loopholes for EVERYONE, and on top of it all, a reduced tax rate could be implemented because the government would not have to issue REFUNDS.
All it takes is a bit of common sense. But this idea that taxing the SH*T out of the rich is the answer to all of our prayers is a flat out LIE.
As for your take on the repulicans wanting to 'hurt the poor and middle class'?? Really....are you seriously promoting such an ignorant stance?? The social safety nets that you speak of are lifetime welfare recipients and people who CAN work but have decided to milk the Social Security department DRY by claiming disability. I'm all in favor of giving people a hand up when they need it....but the system is FAR over abused and anyone with a lick of sense KNOWS it.
As for welfare?? WORK for welfare...or don't get it. PERIOD...and it only lasts a specified amount of time...not a LIFETIME. Handouts, bailouts, welfare, disability...only enable people to RAPE the system while those who TRULY are in need will suffer for it. I personally know people who are completely capable of working but LIE about disability to get a government handout...because...'eh...they don't want to work no more. That has to change. And I don't really know of any other way to change it than to take it apart and rebuild it.
The first part of what you posted is correct, we cannot tax the rich people to erase the deficit/debt.
On the other hand people scamming disability and welfare is a drop in the bucket (especially welfare).
Now the things to cut are Medicare, Social Security or the Military, take your pick.
At this point speculation is kinda pointless, but it looks like Obama will keep Virginia and New Mexico in the Democratic column. Obama can put a lot of money into Florida and force Romney to spend a lot there to keep Romney from making plays in other states. The map still favors Obama.
...and that the popular vote is not nearly as important as the Electoral College.
Exactly it comes down to this President Obama has to play defense in terms of keeping key states like Ohio, and Pennsylvania. Mitt Romney has to play offense if turns of taking states away from President Obama. It takes a lot more time and effort in politics to play offense and your candidate has to be really dynamic to pull it off. Mitt Romney is not dynamic, charismatic or to some people even likable. He's got a tough road ahead.
It is very hard to find a credible path to victory for Romney in the electoral math.
That's the inconvenient truth that the Republican's don't want to deal with.
The Republican problem is this, out of the largest states in terms of electoral votes that only one they really control is Texas. They basically have to cobble together states with small numbers of electoral votes in the Mountain West and South and try to steal as many swing states as possible. That's going to be tough to do.
Give Obama OH, MI, NH and either WI or CO. Give Romney everything else.
This is how Obama will win.
Good luck with that one.
Romney wins in a landslide, as Obama will receive only 227 electoral votes (that is being generous). The liberal polls showing Obama winning all the "definite Obama" states have a marked polling bias and he may even lose some of those. Below is a link that shows the Bush/Kerry electoral map. If Obama is DAMN LUCKY he may be able to win the states shown. That of course, is giving him some states he will most likely lose. Nonetheless, he loses- there are very few scenarios under which Obama can win, as the nation simply does not approve of him.
I have (realistically) Obama getting only 154 electoral votes, which is more likely. This election will be nearly as bad for the dems as the Reagan/Carter landslide and will be a clear mandate to stop the insanity of liberalism. See the DARK BLUE states on the map? That is 161 electoral votes. That, or 154, is all that Obama will get. Those "leaning toward Obama" will not vote for him, as the independents have abandoned him. Only the left wing loon states will continue to support him, and there are just not enough left wing loon states.
Nothing loses elections like failure and incompetence.
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