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So, how long will it take WI Democrats to set up a recall of the recall election?
Such an action would certainly be in line with the actions/thoughts of the liberals. If they get defeated on a law or social program that they want, they keep trying to change the language (but retain the meat of the project) and try to fool the voters. It is what they always attempt.
Perhaps the voters are finally waking up to this tactic and will tell them to stuff it.
Why would they attempt another recall? That doesn't even make sense. However, it will be interesting to see how the state rep and senate races go there in the fall.
Why would they attempt another recall? That doesn't even make sense.
Neither did the first one.
Recalls are usually done when a politician promises one thing during his campaign and then does something else once elected (see Barack Obama and FDR); or whose job performance abjectly fails to achieve what he promised due to his own bad judgment or other such incompetence (see Jimmy Carter and Gray Davis).
Yesterday's failed recall attempt by the Democrats, was done simply because the Wisconsin governor promised during his campaign to cut spending, reduce the state's deficit, and curtail the public-sector unions; and then when a majority of Wisconsin voters approved of his plan and put him in office, he did exactly what he had promised. Wisconsin's small minority of leftist fanatics didn't like the promises, didn't like the results (which matched the promises), and so threw a temper tantrum and tried to go against the majority, and reverse the outcome of the original election. They failed the recall attempt just as they had failed to keep Walker out of office in the first place, and for identical reasons: What they wanted was the opposite of what the majority wanted, both times. Even the issues were identical.
This thread was really opened as a kind of joke, to poke fun at the socialist Democrats for the silliness of their recall attempt after the people of Wisconsin already told them what they wanted in the original election. The Democrats didn't take the hint, and so now have had their clocks cleaned a second time.
I would imagine the poor leftists don't like the results of yesterday's voting any more than they liked the results of the original election. So if their reaction to their first drubbing was an attempt at recall, why not react the same way this time when they just got an identical drubbing in the same way for the same reasons, a few years later? Makes just as much sense this time as it did then.
In other words: I agree with you, it makes NO sense. They would merely be acting consistently.
Recalls are usually done when a politician promises one thing during his campaign and then does something else once elected (see Barack Obama and FDR); or whose job performance abjectly fails to achieve what he promised due to his own bad judgment or other such incompetence (see Jimmy Carter and Gray Davis).
Yesterday's failed recall attempt by the Democrats, was done simply because the Wisconsin governor promised during his campaign to cut spending, reduce the state's deficit, and curtail the public-sector unions; and then when a majority of Wisconsin voters approved of his plan and put him in office, he did exactly what he had promised. Wisconsin's small minority of leftist fanatics didn't like the promises, didn't like the results (which matched the promises), and so threw a temper tantrum and tried to go against the majority, and reverse the outcome of the original election. They failed the recall attempt just as they had failed to keep Walker out of office in the first place, and for identical reasons: What they wanted was the opposite of what the majority wanted, both times. Even the issues were identical.
This thread was really opened as a kind of joke, to poke fun at the socialist Democrats for the silliness of their recall attempt after the people of Wisconsin already told them what they wanted in the original election. The Democrats didn't take the hint, and so now have had their clocks cleaned a second time.
I would imagine the poor leftists don't like the results of yesterday's voting any more than they liked the results of the original election. So if their reaction to their first drubbing was an attempt at recall, why not react the same way this time when they just got an identical drubbing in the same way for the same reasons, a few years later? Makes just as much sense this time as it did then.
In other words: I agree with you, it makes NO sense. They would merely be acting consistently.
1. Remembr it was the GOP that actually started the recall efforts last year. The Dems then launched the recall efforts a few weeks later.
2. The Unions actually agreed to all the demands put forth by Walker during the original campaign. Once he was elected he went much further than what he campaignd on and that is what kick started everything.
1. Remembr it was the GOP that actually started the recall efforts last year. The Dems then launched the recall efforts a few weeks later.
2. The Unions actually agreed to all the demands put forth by Walker during the original campaign. Once he was elected he went much further than what he campaignd on and that is what kick started everything.
Most Wisconsin voters didn't buy the bullshlt you're peddling.
Won't happen. They spent too much money. The gambled with union dues and lost.
Just think of how many organziing campaigns that could have been funded with that money. But they'd rather use it to get the same results in 2012, they got in 2010. Priceless.
1. Remembr it was the GOP that actually started the recall efforts last year. The Dems then launched the recall efforts a few weeks later.
2. The Unions actually agreed to all the demands put forth by Walker during the original campaign. Once he was elected he went much further than what he campaignd on and that is what kick started everything.
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Originally Posted by Trace21230
Most Wisconsin voters didn't buy the bullshlt you're peddling.
So what's factually incorrect in what Smash said? Go back, do some digging, and try to back up your "BS" comment with facts. (Hint--you can't, because that's how it played out. The unions did agree to all the concessions before they went through with the budget reform bill anyway, and the R's did file recalls first). The exit polls were pretty clear that regardless, a big chunk of people didn't think the recall was the way to go on principle, but that doesn't mean that the labor groups who organized it didn't have a reason to be upset.
At the end of the day, Walker winning was a morale buster for labor (they won Ohio, they lost here) but it really doesn't change much. States that have a R governor, House and Senate are already pushing through anti labor legislation, and they're going really extreme on social issues. Walker winning or losing doesn't change that. If more states become entirely R controlled, the same thing will happen elsewhere after November. If R's lose control in one body or another in those states, it will stop. My biggest concern is that this is going to further radicalize the extreme end of the R base, and they're going to go off on a bat poop crazy limb--even further than things like the personhood amendments they've been pushing--and voters are going to backlash completely on the R party.
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