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Old 06-07-2012, 07:09 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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No but his administration sure has had a lot of security leaks regarding Afghanistan. Were his Hollywood buddies given access to Bin Laden's demise? Has his administration been leaking classifeid documents on his "kill list" and Iran?

Romney had deferals, he did not dodge. I would think that those against "war mongers" would be happy he was involved in non violent religious endeavors at the time but I guess that is just an act.

Could Clinton have gotton Bin Laden during the 10 years that we weren't at war?

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Old 06-07-2012, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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He is only one behind our last President, Cheney. Seems to be a Republican tradition or something
"President" Hillary Clinton (1993-2001) never served, either.
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Old 06-07-2012, 07:23 PM
 
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Millions of people did not go, draft or not, was obama old enough in 1990?
Millions of people are not running for CIC, and foaming at the mouth to start a war with Iran...are you really that obtuse?
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Old 06-07-2012, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Bush was AWOL, Cheney got 5, Mitt got 4, to follow this proud tradition I think Mitt should choose Ted Nugent as his V.P.
100% wrong. Bush was never AWOL.
His military records show that he served and actually put in slightly more time than required. He received an honorable discharge as a 1st Lt.
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:13 PM
 
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So going to college and getting deferrals will keep Romney from becoming President?

Only stupid people or a liberal would vote for one issue.

Smart people who need JOBS wont even care about this.

Cannot wait to see the next hate attack.


So what is worse? Being a drug dealing member of a socialist group who hates America or getting a deferral?
Lots of people care about it. They do not like hypocrits and Romney is among the biggest.
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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You got a choice between, "Didn't serve in the military ever." and "Didn't server in the military ever."

Sure I'd prefer to have a President that has served in the military. We don't have that option this year so why even bring it up?
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:24 PM
 
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Obama is sending my daughter to Afghanistan shortly. Where was it he served?
Again, it is NOT because somebody served or didn't serve. That is not the issue here. I do not know if Obama was even draft eligible considering his rather young age. But even if he was, Obama is not a war monger. He doesn't cheer for war while hiding himself from war. The issue is the hypocrisy here and not that Romney got deferrals because his daddy made some phone calls no doubt. His daddy did not serve in the military either but George Romney was a liberal and not a war monger like little Mittens is.
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:39 PM
 
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Again, it is NOT because somebody served or didn't serve. That is not the issue here. I do not know if Obama was even draft eligible considering his rather young age. But even if he was, Obama is not a war monger. He doesn't cheer for war while hiding himself from war. The issue is the hypocrisy here and not that Romney got deferrals because his daddy made some phone calls no doubt. His daddy did not serve in the military either but George Romney was a liberal and not a war monger like little Mittens is.

I haven't seen Obama get us out of anything that Bush hadn't already arranged. If anything, Obama ramped things up. And he's doing it in addition to the forced redux meaning troops are doing more and more tours. Additionally, what's with all the security leaks?

Has someone provided a link showing Romney protesting the protesters?

People here dismiss the idea that Vietnam vets got spit on but I saw it. No link though.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Clinton didn't invade or threaten to invade any countries, didn;t start any 10 year wars.

This is not true especially if you know some Serbians or Serbian-Americans!
Clinton sent US Forces into Bosnia-Herzgovina (1995) and Kossovo (1997). The Kossovo war saw many US air attacks on Serbia proper . The Serbs sjot down a few of our planes including a F-117 Stealth fighter. We bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade and destroyed most of the bridges over the Danube. We also killed a few Serb civilians.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Wyoming
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Of course Nam vets were spit on. All of them? No. But it happened. Not sure what that has to do with Romney....

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(Re: Who cares?) The folks who served....
I served. I don't care. Just a guess, but I'd bet more than half the young men during the Nam era got deferments. If they wanted to go to college, that's what they did. It was standard practice. Most didn't want to go. The U.S. wasn't exactly under attack by the Vietcong.

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... don't hide your ass from going to tell everybody else who is not as rich as you are to go. That is THE issue here to me.
Speaking of myths (earlier), the rich thing is mostly just that. Yes, it's true that going to college could keep you from being drafted, provided that you didn't flunk out. But you didn't NEED to be from a rich family to attend college. There were inexpensive colleges then too. One I considered attending cost under $600 per semester. And there were scholarships. Grants. Loans. If you had the aptitude for college work and wanted to go, you could go. If you did, deferments were automatic.

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Romney speaks to a veteran on a news clip of Nam and compares his, (Romney's), service to his church as comparable to the service of that combat vet.
In a way, it is. Young Mormon men are expected to serve as missionaries for, I believe, two years. (Not sure of time frame.) Romney has certainly shown that he's a devote Mormon over the years, as he continued to serve his church and donate generously to it over the years.

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Mitt Romeny is a coward plain and simple. His daddy bought his way out serving his country. The number that Romney should have drawn went to a brave America who may have lost his life or limb for his country....
Again, he had a college deferment. He was smart enough that he didn't need his daddy's money for that. He didn't need it to be a missionary either.

As for the draft lottery and Romney drawing a number.... he didn't draw a number, in case that's what you believe. The number was the date of his birth. Every eligible male born on his birthday had the same number, so that was pretty hard to change. Those numbers were drawn once each year.

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...Romney never served in the military but has stated many times that he plans to start a new war with Iran....
I would REALLY like to see just one of the "many times" where Romney has stated that he "plans to start a new war with Iran" -- with reliable witnesses, of course. That should be easy for you, since he's stated it many times. Show us one quote from mainstream media or retract it.

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Obama spent his younger years fighting to bring down America.
I think he still is. I was taught in school 50 years ago that America could never be brought down by an external force... that it would be from an internal force, whittling away at the Constitution. That's happening now.

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(Re: Did you volunteer?) Yes I did. and my family especially my MOM ask me not to.
So you did or did not? Did you enlist, fight? Or did you not because your MOM asked you not to? If it's the latter, you DID NOT volunteer.

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...Romney got deferrals because his daddy made some phone calls no doubt....
Again, "no doubt?" I have doubt. I have serious doubt. Why would he need his daddy to make phone calls? He was in college, then he was a missionary, then back to college.
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