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Old 06-13-2012, 06:08 PM
 
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I agree. I don't like Reid either. A bloodless drone like McConnell. Neither has the leadership mojo of a blind, toothless beagle.
We may have for the first time agreed on something?
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:15 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Very well stated. At almost 4 years later, and the excuses seem to escalate it does become quite pathetic, that one would still play the BLAME GAME, which he is quite good at, i must say.

Does not play the blame game, when things seem to be going well, he is all in front of the cameras, at those times.

His arrogance stuborness, and ignorance, i think has led to this arrogant administration, such as Holder.

Simple as this, are most Americans better off then 4 years ago, as he promised we would be. Nope.

Most Americans working, Nope, for crying out loud, college grads and teens can't even find work. And many Americans are being laid off as i type.

Unity, Nope more Division in this Country then ever, why is that!

Housing the worse scneario ever, and going to continue to go down, and what ever value one has in their home, kiss it good by.

Businesses thriving, Nope, on the contrary, so many businessess as we know have closed their door, are going to close, or a good portion of their stores, they will close. No profits.

The President unlike what he said in tapes i have of him in 2008 can spend, unlike what he said, he can spend like there is no tomorrow. Which of course for him there will not be!

If most people are true unto themselves, look around, don't take no genius to figure this one out. The economy is in the toilet, and Obama don't know how, and can't fix it. He ought to stop playing games, and just reason with the people and tell us, no i could not live up to my promise to all of you of bringing to you Hope n' Change. Whatever he promsies us this time around, will be nothing more then garbage?
You hate the blame game - yet you blame. Yeah, let's look around like you say. Put the blame where it belongs.
The Bush tax cuts are supposed to be creating jobs like crazy as we speak. Reaganomics and repug deregulated trickle-down are still in effect. Obama has continued the repub policies. We are still in a right-wing economy. Repug policies sent us into depression and crash-and-burn in 2007 (how soon you forget). So yeah, let's go back to Reagan and Bush and see if anything worse can be done - that'll do the trick.
You righties stomp your feet, whine, because you want your mess cleaned up so that you can go back to playing again. Obama didn't mess up your room - you should have kept it clean prior to 2008.
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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It's this simple, and you see it on this board all the time. The Conservatives know how to attack and talk trash, but they don't know how to govern. I have seen almost no evidence of good GOP leadership since Bush 1. Why would I give power to a bunch of rabid pit bulls who can never take responsibility for anything? I mean there is literally no shame.

The point of this thread was to give the GOP a chance to honestly win our respect. But no, the honest and honorable way to do things is apparently asking too much. Far better to parrot a bunch of lying propaganda, put a bunch of corporate prostitutes in power to screw the people some more. No thanks.
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Seems to me that almost all the outrageous claims of how incompetent Obama is are outright lies. Did he cause the recession? No. Did he start the bailouts? No. Would the economy have been better under the GOP? Hell NO! Is he a socialist? No. Is he a foreign spy? No. Is he a Mulsim? No. Etc.,etc.

The desire to make Obama a one term President has debased the GOP. It has turned McConnell into a gross caricature of a leader, who wants to destroy Obama more than to do his job for the country. The Tea Party fringe, full of hypocritical fury and claiming to be fiscally conservative, but going down on Grover Norquist is disgusting and transparently phony. The cheering and high fiving from the right after every bad job report, stock market drop, or rumble from Europe, is all just disgraceful. Bottomline, none of this earns respect, and even if someone can throw a turd at Obama and make it stick, it is just not an honest or honorable way to do business. Let's face it, Obama is a strong president, and Biden is a good man too. They are dealing with a sucky hand (for America, not just for reelection), with no assistant and plenty of backstabbing by the GOP. Trying to make Obama look like an idiot only gets us Dems in a fighting mood, and it takes about 0.1 nanosecond to think of the last buffoon you all put in office and reelected, the wars, etc., etc.,etc., and general nastiness ensues. So, truce. I personally want to forget about W and look forward.

How about conceding 2012, or at least backing off the scorched earth tactics. Romney will likely lose anyway. But more importantly, get to work and help get our country out of this recession. Cut the horse ****, a build a constructive resume we can all admire, with Obama and the Dems. The pendulum will swing back by 2016. Trust me, we (the Dems) will not find anyone of Obama's caliber for 2016, and if they trust them, folks will likely be ready to give the GOP a shot. But someone who will provide some continuity and sound leadership. Put forward an intelligent candidate in 2016, like Romney or Christy or Huntman, and show the independents that the GOP loves America more than it wants power by any means. The 2012 season and most of the last two years have made so I would never want to support a GOP candidate in my lifetime. What thinking person would reward arrogant, intolerant, generally caustic zealots with power? At present, party seems to be run by lying, or possibly deranged scum.

The GOP needs to mend some fences, IMO, not threaten to burn down the ranch if you don't get your way.
Awww, did that make you feel better binky? Obama is toast in November.
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Now, I worded that title poorly, and this thread might seem like a desperate Dem attempt to derail democracy. Fair enough.

But really the insight I had this morning was for the long-term good of the GOP and our country. Why don't we work together for the good of the country NOW, and if we do, I think the natural political cycle will reward the GOP in 2016. The outrage over Obama is just complete theater, and everyone knows it. He is certainly worthy of a second term if W was. By trying incessantly to screw Obama, they only screw America, and in the end themselves. You have to build good will across the spectrum, and the GOP has failed miserably at that.

You know, I feel like this insight is a personal epiphany, but judging by the 2012 GOP field, I suspect the smarter GOP candidates made this decision a couple years ago.

Again, for the GOP. How about earning the respect of your country again, and being rewarded with trust. You can only do that if you focus on innovating, not destroying.
How about telling Obama to work with congress for the betterment of our country? If nothing else, how about emailing Obama and demanding he remove Holder for starters?

I think most of us realize it is the Democrats that are in trouble, not the Republicans based on 2009 elections, 2010 and and 2011 as well as Wi. The only exception was yesterday and that was no biggy for either side.
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:26 PM
 
Location: west mich
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How about telling Obama to work with congress for the betterment of our country? If nothing else, how about emailing Obama and demanding he remove Holder for starters?
I think most of us realize it is the Democrats that are in trouble, not the Republicans based on 2009 elections, 2010 and and 2011 as well as Wi. The only exception was yesterday and that was no biggy for either side.
Repugs have made it clear that they want no part of working with Obama.
Only repugs and Fox viewers, not "most of us", think Dems are underdogs to Mr. Cardboard.
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:29 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Seems to me that almost all the outrageous claims of how incompetent Obama is are outright lies. Did he cause the recession? No. Did he start the bailouts? No. Would the economy have been better under the GOP? Hell NO! Is he a socialist? No. Is he a foreign spy? No. Is he a Mulsim? No. Etc.,etc.

The desire to make Obama a one term President has debased the GOP. It has turned McConnell into a gross caricature of a leader, who wants to destroy Obama more than to do his job for the country. The Tea Party fringe, full of hypocritical fury and claiming to be fiscally conservative, but going down on Grover Norquist is disgusting and transparently phony. The cheering and high fiving from the right after every bad job report, stock market drop, or rumble from Europe, is all just disgraceful. Bottomline, none of this earns respect, and even if someone can throw a turd at Obama and make it stick, it is just not an honest or honorable way to do business. Let's face it, Obama is a strong president, and Biden is a good man too. They are dealing with a sucky hand (for America, not just for reelection), with no assistant and plenty of backstabbing by the GOP. Trying to make Obama look like an idiot only gets us Dems in a fighting mood, and it takes about 0.1 nanosecond to think of the last buffoon you all put in office and reelected, the wars, etc., etc.,etc., and general nastiness ensues. So, truce. I personally want to forget about W and look forward.

How about conceding 2012, or at least backing off the scorched earth tactics. Romney will likely lose anyway. But more importantly, get to work and help get our country out of this recession. Cut the horse ****, a build a constructive resume we can all admire, with Obama and the Dems. The pendulum will swing back by 2016. Trust me, we (the Dems) will not find anyone of Obama's caliber for 2016, and if they trust them, folks will likely be ready to give the GOP a shot. But someone who will provide some continuity and sound leadership. Put forward an intelligent candidate in 2016, like Romney or Christy or Huntman, and show the independents that the GOP loves America more than it wants power by any means. The 2012 season and most of the last two years have made so I would never want to support a GOP candidate in my lifetime. What thinking person would reward arrogant, intolerant, generally caustic zealots with power? At present, party seems to be run by lying, or possibly deranged scum.

The GOP needs to mend some fences, IMO, not threaten to burn down the ranch if you don't get your way.

why should the GOP concede when obama will be another carter and only serve 1 term as potus.

now if you mean that the gop should concede the 2012 election in favor of Gary Johnson, then i will whole heartily agree.
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Repugs have made it clear that they want no part of working with Obama.
Only repugs and Fox viewers, not "most of us", think Dems are underdogs to Mr. Cardboard.
Lol, that's like saying the Dems made it clear they do not wish to work with Paul Ryan. Of course they don't, they don't agree with his plan. The left ought to stop being whiney weenies, put on their big boy pants and try to pass something simple like a budget. Something they haven't even tried for three years. Now who's fault is that?
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:34 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Awww, did that make you feel better binky? Obama is toast in November.
Especially if repugs can rig the election somehow. How do you suppose they will do it - like Florida purging voters? Hacking voting machines?
Repugs can't win if they tell the truth, so perhaps their media, or their Supreme Court can do the job for them again. We'll see....
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Especially if repugs can rig the election somehow. How do you suppose they will do it - like Florida purging voters? Hacking voting machines?
Repugs can't win if they tell the truth, so perhaps their media, or their Supreme Court can do the job for them again. We'll see....
Awwww, the left is in full on whine mode, making excuses already. They are going to be quivering puddles of jello come November!
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